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[08 octobre 2019] Update list GDR pour Windows 7 SP1 x86/x64 (Fr-En-De-Es-It)

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1 hour ago, rhahgleuhargh said:

@Thiersee

OK. So you tried to install it with your own RunOnce package. I didn't put it in the Convenience Updates category since it wasn't asked by WU.

Updated ULs uploaded. I don't know if this june rollup superseeds old WU client .cabs and WU client update KB3138612, so I left them in the list. There is no info about KB3161608 yet in WU Catalog website.

Why did you put KB3161608 in the "Common"-category (filename 4-) but give him the category-id 3 (Classic)?

I think, if common it should be category-id=2, shouldn't?

Edited by Thiersee

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If Microsoft continues like this, it will be confusion.
I think it would be better to make two separate lists.

If uninstall KB3138612, WU ask them. I think not replaced. :)

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Oooops,

It was a copy/paste error. Correction done. Next time I'll wait to be at home to edit the ULs.

@X-Force

It could be a solution, but no, I don't want to create 2 different lists : it increases the risk to forget to delete or add an update in x64 and/or x86 lists (4 ULs). Those lists are beginning to be complicated to maintain. A real Convenience pack (ie without all other >30 required updates) or a SP would have been better and more professional from M$.

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Convenience rollup KB3125574 supersede both WU client .cabs and WU client update KB3138612

similarly,  June 2016 rollup KB3161608 supersede them both as well

 

yes i know that WU checks the state of WUClient-SelfUpdate .cabs on each search session
but it completely runs fine without them, and WU itself mention that they are not required
WindowsUpdate.log -> SelfUpdate is NOT required.

however as usual WU mess, it asks for  KB3138612 because it's GDR, while  KB3125574 &  KB3161608 are LDR
that's the same reason why around 8 old security updates show up in WU after installing  KB3161608
 

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@abbodi1406

Thanks very much for these confirmations. Since WU still asks for KB3138612 I'll let it in the ULs release, and I'll remove old .cabs.

I just hope M$ will update WU itself, it would be a real improvement to not have to integrate superseeded updates (yes, I'm lazy !)...

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guys it seems from the last page or 2 that you are trying to make as accurate as you can updated win 7 lists. I cannot tell if it will be using the classic updates or the convenience updates (or both). Will this venture make it be able to update as accurately and correctly as possible, a new iso every month for members?

regards...

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@pennsylvaniaron

You can use 2 different methods to make an updated ISO : the classic one, or the Convenience Rollup pack method. Both methods work (ie no update will be asked by WU at first check). You just have to select the method you prefer.

The Convenience Rollup pack method is faster (approximately 50 updates to integrate), and after installation saves > 1 Go in your HDD compared to classic method. You can add the Additional updates, RDP updates, or Windows 10 related updates if you want, with the 2 methods. Convenience Rollup method needed some little adjustment with updates orders and non-needed updates, but now it's OK !

These ULs contain all the minimum updates required to satisfy WU. If you want something more complete, you can use the list provided by WHD (for specific questions,  abbodi1406 is THE REFERENCE !).

I sugest to you to create an ISO from the scratch instead of updating a precedent version, your installation will be cleaner.

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1 hour ago, rhahgleuhargh said:

@pennsylvaniaron

You can use 2 different methods to make an updated ISO : the classic one, or the Convenience Rollup pack method. Both methods work (ie no update will be asked by WU at first check). You just have to select the method you prefer.

The Convenience Rollup pack method is faster (approximately 50 updates to integrate), and after installation saves > 1 Go in your HDD compared to classic method. You can add the Additional updates, RDP updates, or Windows 10 related updates if you want, with the 2 methods. Convenience Rollup method needed some little adjustment with updates orders and non-needed updates, but now it's OK !

These ULs contain all the minimum updates required to satisfy WU. If you want something more complete, you can use the list provided by WHD (for specific questions,  abbodi1406 is THE REFERENCE !).

I sugest to you to create an ISO from the scratch instead of updating a precedent version, your installation will be cleaner.

I see the new list has 6/22/16 as the date so its very much updated. are you saying to take that 6/22 UL into WUD, download convenience rollup pack (1), the common and convenience rollup and classic updates (50), classic integration (no rdp) (2), IE updates (1), additional updates (4) and integrate them using WTK with a clean win 7_64 sp1 media refresh ISO and I DON'T need the classic updates (151)? Or should I do this to liam's April 2016 ISO? Then the final iso will pass SFC and there will hardly be any new updates when manually checking WU after iso install?

regards...

Edited by pennsylvaniaron
ps I will try the clean media refresh while I await your response...thx

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I just started the convenience integration. BTW, I use win 7_64 Home Premium. while doing integration in WTK there were 4 updates that don't integrate properly (message) and wanted to be put with the silents. They are 3020369, 2603229, 3046269 and I believe another ending in 2352. I did not have them go to silent because I believe that 2352 update takes forever to install. but I might be wrong.

I will report back with the final results.

regards...

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On ‎6‎/‎18‎/‎2016 at 9:41 AM, rhahgleuhargh said:

@pennsylvaniaron

Have you move KB3020609 and KB2670838 in the prerequisite section of Wintoolkit (right-clic on the update --> move to prerequisites) ? If no that's why you can't integrate the Convenience Rollup.

 

The convenience package KB3125574 still gets a ? when integrating. I moved kb2670838 to prerequisites. I cannot find KB3020609 anywhere in the UL lists that I use.

regards...

Edited by pennsylvaniaron

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3 minutes ago, pennsylvaniaron said:

The convenience package KB3125574 still gets a ? when integrating. I moved kb2670838 to prerequisites. I cannot find KB3020609 anywhere in the UL lists that I use.

regards...

KB3125574 needs KB3020369 (not ...609, it was a mistake) installed first!

May be because of that it get a question mark.

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ok WTK almost finished. before I use it on VM, the only update not integrating is KB2533552. I assume I have to put it in the silent or can I not do that and let WU find it when manually checking? I seem to remember that kb2533552 takes about 30 minutes (or longer) to install via silent...

in addition what about 2603229 and 3046269?

regards...

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guys I was able to complete a very successful convenience rollup WTK iso (THANK YOU!). This is what I ended up with. Any comments appreciated. The only kb in my silent is 2533552 which installed in about 4 minutes. Leaving out 3035583 and the june malicious tool, I had 11 important updates in WU. 2 are for NFW 3.51, 4 are for NFW 4.6 and 4.61 (I use nfw 4.61 as an addon in wtk) and kb's 2952664, 3021917, 3068708, 3080149 and 3123862.

regards...

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10 hours ago, pennsylvaniaron said:

I see the new list has 6/22/16 as the date so its very much updated. are you saying to take that 6/22 UL into WUD, download convenience rollup pack (1), the common and convenience rollup and classic updates (50), classic integration (no rdp) (2), IE updates (1), additional updates (4) and integrate them using WTK with a clean win 7_64 sp1 media refresh ISO and I DON'T need the classic updates (151)? Or should I do this to liam's April 2016 ISO? Then the final iso will pass SFC and there will hardly be any new updates when manually checking WU after iso install?

regards...

No, using Convenience Rollup integration method you only need : Rollup, Common updates, IE updates, and eventually if needed Additional updates. That's all. I've updated the second post of the topic with the screenshots. All updates marked "1-" need to be integrated in "Prerequisite" section of WTK, especially KB3020369 (sorry for the bad number) and KB2670838. You have to move these 2 KBs manually, until Legolash2o will update WTK.

Concerning the RunOnce updates, yes KB2533552, KB2603229 and KB3046269 have to be integrated in Silent + SFX section of WTK.

As Thiersee wrote, it's better to use an untouched ISO.

If you want to mask Windows 10 upgrade updates and other telemetry updates, just add the Rollup.exe SFX at the end of the Silent + SFX section of WTK, they will be automatically hidden (it's reversible).

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6 hours ago, rhahgleuhargh said:

No, using Convenience Rollup integration method you only need : Rollup, Common updates, IE updates, and eventually if needed Additional updates. That's all. I've updated the second post of the topic with the screenshots. All updates marked "1-" need to be integrated in "Prerequisite" section of WTK, especially KB3020369 (sorry for the bad number) and KB2670838. You have to move these 2 KBs manually, until Legolash2o will update WTK.

Concerning the RunOnce updates, yes KB2533552, KB2603229 and KB3046269 have to be integrated in Silent + SFX section of WTK.

As Thiersee wrote, it's better to use an untouched ISO.

If you want to mask Windows 10 upgrade updates and other telemetry updates, just add the Rollup.exe SFX at the end of the Silent + SFX section of WTK, they will be automatically hidden (it's reversible).

rhahgleuhargh thanks again. I have everything from your post setup to go in WTK. I'll just await your response to this VERY nubie question so plz don't hit me over the head. what does SFX stand for and how (where) do I get rollup.exe to add to the silent SFX section? I assume I leave the win10 telemetry updates UNCHECKED. also don't know where or how to run win10.vbs. or if that's even necessary combined with rollup.exe. I do NOT want win10 updates installed. sorry to have you go step by step, but I'm almost at the promised land!!

regards...

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@pennsylvaniaron

just go to the first post where you've download the ULs : you'll find a link to "Hide_W10_KBs_silent_SFX" and "Rollup_Hide_W10_KBs_silent_SFX". The first one is for classic integration method, the second for the Convenience Rollup method (it adds 2 superseeded DNF3.5.1 updates always asked by WU). The SFX extracts a .vbs script that hides the specific updates. This operation is reversible you can unmask the KB when you want.

Uncompress the archive and put the executable file in last position in your "silent install + SFX" list. No argument is needed.

Theother method is to run the "never10" program (link in first post too), but this program doesn't have any effect on telemetry updates.

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1 hour ago, rhahgleuhargh said:

@pennsylvaniaron

just go to the first post where you've download the ULs : you'll find a link to "Hide_W10_KBs_silent_SFX" and "Rollup_Hide_W10_KBs_silent_SFX". The first one is for classic integration method, the second for the Convenience Rollup method (it adds 2 superseeded DNF3.5.1 updates always asked by WU). The SFX extracts a .vbs script that hides the specific updates. This operation is reversible you can unmask the KB when you want.

Uncompress the archive and put the executable file in last position in your "silent install + SFX" list. No argument is needed.

Theother method is to run the "never10" program (link in first post too), but this program doesn't have any effect on telemetry updates.

ok got it. I am about to make the new rollup 6/22/16 iso with all your instructions. I was including GWX (like never10) as a file being put on the desktop which I was installing (afterwards) to stop win 10. That can now be eliminated. after using this method have you run sfc? I will let you know if my iso passes SFC. when I made the last iso which was close to your instructions it failed but was able to repair the files. I just hate to have to run sfc after every new install. but again I will report back. thx much.

regards 

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@pennsylvaniaron

I never integrate KB2533552, disguised as KB976932 in WU - it has been superseded by KB3020369.  Instead, I include it in my hideUpdates.vbs file, along with KB971033...

hideupdates(0) = "KB971033"
hideupdates(1) = "KB976932"

 

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@rhahgleuhargh

I'm just working on a slightly modified version of the hiding tool, plus a tool to unhide updates (for testing purposes)...
Will report back soon.

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2 hours ago, rhahgleuhargh said:

@pennsylvaniaron

Some people reported that ISO didn't pass SFC, but all files were repaired. I don't know why, maybe it occurs when you add some tweaks or some programs. I never checked it with Convenience Rollup method. Please report !

ok everything seems ok with the install unfortunately SFC FAILS the scan but it does repair the file(s). That means every install needs a sfc scan which adds more time to an installation which is a drag. To give you an idea of what I integrate>>>I started with a media refresh win 7_64 sp1 iso and wtk v.1.5.4.4. I used your convenience rollup method exactly as you told me, no deviation. I used NFW 4.61 add-on. I used in the updates IE11 exe as the only non-included update from your list. I believe I have 54 updates in all. my silents include adobe reader, FP, malwarebytes, ccleaner, google toolbar, kb's 2533552, 2603229, 3046269 and the rollup last. there were 8 updates to be installed in WU after install, mostly NFW 4.6 stuff. I think we need to find a way to have sfc pass. If anyone else has a clean SFC scan please comment...

regards....

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Hi,

I' using NTLite for integration and having some issues with the Convenience Rollup pack method.After downlading the updates with WUD I was able to intergrate them without any problems into an untouched Windows 7 SP1 ISO, but after installation WU demands 6 security updates (KB2813347, KB2912390, KB3035126, KB3078601, KB3109094, KB3110329). Does somebody know what is causing this issue? The classic method works without any problems.

 

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