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Merci pour l'info !

Je referai une intégration avec seulement l'installateur d'IE 11 pour voir si on peut faire sauter d'autres MAJ (je ne me suis intéressé jusqu'ici qu'aux 153 KB de la section updates).

Je remettrai les UL à jour ensuite (bon, à une MAJ près, on est quand meêm OK !).

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Hello,

Je confirme également. En revanche, KB2976627 est toujours nécessaire !

ULs remises à jour, cette fois-ci je pense jusqu'au mois de novembre...

Merci à tous pour les retours !

 

Bilan définitif : 153 Updates x64, 152 Updates x86, 2 IE 11 Updates, 7 RDP Updates, 2 RunOnce Updates x64, et 1 en x86.

 

J'espère que le mois prochain les futures MAJ en remplaceront plusieurs autres, car les intégrations commencent à devenir trèèèèèèèèèès longues...

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 les intégrations commencent à devenir trèèèèèèèèèès longues...

 

Tu utilises un SSD ?

 

Oui, deux, mais le plus rapide où j'ai mon OS et les programmes est plein, j'en utilise un de première génération plus lent pour les tests : 30 min d'intégration en x86, 45 en x64.

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De quoi te plains tu ? 1h15min sans SSD...

 

W7 x64 > RAS en VM

Mmmh, toi tu ne fais pas 4 intégrations par test pour valider les ULs (2 en x86, 2 en x64 : avec et sans les updates RDP pour ne pas induire d'erreur dans le rangement des dossiers) ! Et sans compter quand MS retire des mises à jour, j'en suis à 8 tests ce mois-ci ! :ranting:

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Ah c'est sûr que les updates packs sous XP étaient bien plus rapides...D’ailleurs c'est entre autre à cause de cette lourdeur/lenteur que j'ai ralenti les créations des ISO, j'en fait une tous les deux ou trois mois ces derniers temps.

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Désolé du HS mais certains se permettent de nous remballer quand on écris français sur leur forum ou que notre anglais est mauvais alors qu'eux ne se gêne pas pour écrire anglais sur le notre....

 

Bien que l'anglais est mondiale, tout le monde ne le maitrise pas (moi particulièrement) mais c'est plus une question de principe.

 

C'était le coup de gueule !

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@Thiersee,

Thx for the info ! I don't have the time to check this because I have too much work for next two weeks, but I'll update UL with the correction for the next update patch.

@Alpha_95,

Personnellement cela ne me dérange pas de parler plusieurs langues dans un forum, ce d'autant que beaucoup de retours de personnes ne parlant pas français m'ont aidé à enlever des mises à jour obsolètes des listes. Après, il ne faut pas oublier que suite à la disparition du forum french system addons de Moebius fin 2012, quand certains d'entre nous ont réussi à se contacter par MP pour trouver une solution alternative, les modos de Wincert nous ont gentiment hébergés et nous ont permis de poursuivre nos hobbies gratuitement (merci mooms au passage pour l'initiative, et à icare, Ken@fri, gillesg et les autres, d'avoir réuploadé leur travail ici).

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@Alpha_95,

 

L'anglais est la langue véhiculaire indispensable permettant de nous comprendre, (tu remarqueras que Thiersee est Autrichien), et en effet pour se débrouiller sur le net vaut mieux s'y mettre. ;)

 

Je comprends ton coup de gueule, à mon avis celui ou ceux qui t'ont fait ce genre de remarques sont stupides (ou bien ton anglais étais vraiment incompréhensible).

 

Pour l'anglais sur la partie francophone: à partir du moment où la personne apporte quelque chose de constructif je tolère, si il y avait trop d'abus je mettrais le holà, mais je trouve que c'est plutôt flatteur si des personnes non francophones viennent ici: ça veut dire que notre rayonnement est international  B)  (c'est la semaine du rayonnement francophone c'est pour ça :D  )

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Slt rhahgleuhargh,  

Merci pour ton Travail,

Je suis nouveau dans l'intégration de KB  :g: ;)

Donc voici mon retour avec Win 7 SP1 Ultimate x64
(+ addon:

7-Zip (Reapers.7.Zip.9.32.Windows7.or.8.AddOn)
DirectX (DirectX_June2010_x64)
Microsoft .NET Framework (dotNetFx452_x64.W7.20141015.Full)
NFOPad.v1.69 - )

Malicious Software Removal Tool (KB890830)

Donc:
2 KB ne s'intègrent pas avec WinToolkit 1.5.2.16: KB2976627 & KB2987107 (ici)


Ensuite je fais le test avec VirtualBox v4.3.16-95972 :

1ère erreur d'install mais c'est sans doute dû à l'addon Malicious Software Removal Tool (KB890830)

-> Erreur1

Ensuite je fais les mise à jours de windows:

Voici ce que me demande WinUpdate:

==IMPORTANT==  7 MAJ (133,1 Mo)
KB -- IE11
KB2987107
KB2706045
KB2909210
KB259845

KB890830 - Outil Suppression Logiciels Malveillants (Malicious Software Removal Tool)

KB915597 - Win Defender (Definition 1.187.1007.0)


==FACULTATIF== (34 maj Module Linguistique)

 

maj1a + maj1b
 

 

///Redamarrage

==IMPORTANT==  2 MAJ (91.6 Mo)
KB2976627
KB2987107


==FACULTATIF== (34 maj Module Linguistique)

maj2a + maj2b

 

OK plus de maj

 

 

merci

 

@++ :welcome:

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Hello,

Merci pour le retour !

Concernant les KB2976627 & KB2987107 qui sont des MAJ d'IE 11, je n'avais pas rencontré de bug avec WinToolkit (mais je n'ai pas testé les dernières versions, j'en suis resté à la ...14, il me semble qu'il y a eu plusieurs soucis avec les suivantes). Refais peut-être un essai avec la dernière version en date. Le souci provient du fait que tu ne sembles pas avoir intégré le setup de IE 11 au préalable (tu dois sélectionner manuellement le fichier .exe avec Win toolkit en cliquant sur IE/XP dans le menu déroulant au lieu des .MSU, et vérifier que les mises à jour IE 11 sont listées après, cf. capture ci-dessous) ?

Quant aux autres mises à jour demandées lors du premier redémarrage, elles ne figurent pas sur la liste. Sans doute y a t il eu un souci lors de l'intégration, parce qu'elles n'ont pas été demandées lors de mon test.

Qaunt aux 34 mises à jour optionnelles, ce sont les packs de langues de ton édition intégrale. Inutiles sauf si tu est multilingue (dans ce cas, utilise plutôt une édition professionnelle).

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I installed W7 HP (x86) in a VM  and after a deep cleaning KB2973351 has been marked as superseded and uninstalled.

 

x86 ONLY; UL 23-10-2014.

Hello Thiersee,

I made a test on my new x86 VM (W7 professional), and this KB wasn't uninstalled after a deep clean. I Uninstalled this KB and checked WU : this KB is asked ! Checking WU catalog webside shows that this KB was not superseeded by another KB. Are you sure of what you've found ?

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Hallo

 

 

I installed W7 HP (x86) in a VM  and after a deep cleaning KB2973351 has been marked as superseded and uninstalled.

 

x86 ONLY; UL 23-10-2014.

Hello Thiersee,

I made a test on my new x86 VM (W7 professional), and this KB wasn't uninstalled after a deep clean. I Uninstalled this KB and checked WU : this KB is asked ! Checking WU catalog webside shows that this KB was not superseeded by another KB. Are you sure of what you've found ?

 

Hallo rhahgleuhargh,

 

yes, I am!

 

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2014-10-30 15:49:32, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2973337~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Adding: Package_for_KB2973351~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.1
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2976627~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~11.2.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2976897~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2977292~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2977728~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2978092~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.1 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2978668~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2978742~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2979570~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.1 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2980245~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:33, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2984972~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.4 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2984976~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.3 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2985461~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2987107~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~11.2.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2993651~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.3 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2994023~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.1 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB2998527~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.1 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB3000056~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.3.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB3000061~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.2 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB3000869~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB3000988~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.1 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:34, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB3001554~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.1 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    Skipping: Package_for_KB982018~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.3.2 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    Skipping: WUClient-SelfUpdate-ActiveX~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~7.6.7600.320 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    Skipping: WUClient-SelfUpdate-Aux-TopLevel~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~7.6.7600.320 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    Skipping: WUClient-SelfUpdate-Core-TopLevel~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~7.6.7600.320 due to applicability
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: Ensuring the online components hive is loaded to perform package analysis...
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-iebrowsewebdiagnostic_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.17514_none_26809f24cbab5d6a
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-iesecuritydiagnostic_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.17514_none_966c784e660840ee
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: Microsoft-Windows-IE-Troubleshooters-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.7601.17514: unique components: 3 Size: 296.54 KB (303,661 bytes)
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: Ensuring the online components hive is loaded to perform package analysis...
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-i..eoptionalcomponents_31bf3856ad364e35_8.0.7601.17514_none_1e7b93842c84c912
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-i..etexplorer-optional_31bf3856ad364e35_8.0.7601.17514_none_b5780d7c8309d95c
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-ie-gc-registeriepkeys_31bf3856ad364e35_8.0.7601.17514_none_44aa873ff9136c27
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Optional-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~8.0.7601.17514: unique components: 8 Size: 928.09 KB (950,374 bytes)
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: Ensuring the online components hive is loaded to perform package analysis...
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-ncrypt-dll_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.18270_none_5fa0c25350128c24
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-security-credssp_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.18409_none_c5cf540affc59d18
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-security-digest_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.18409_none_3ce46db2daeaac10
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-security-kerberos_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.18409_none_e8edffc70f03283f
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-security-ntlm_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.18409_none_7eca0f6ec0c05b5f
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-security-schannel_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.18409_none_242d6da9b3786f08
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-ncrypt-dll_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_none_606d46d268fdab92
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-security-credssp_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_none_c64722b018f1a1c0
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-security-digest_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_none_3d5c3c57f416b0b8
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-security-kerberos_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_none_e965ce6c282f2ce7
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-security-ntlm_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_none_7f41de13d9ec6007
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-credssp-adm.resources_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.18496_de-de_90abfc8710f06ada
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-credssp-adm.resources_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_de-de_91881b5629d0c00e
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-lsa.resources_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.18409_de-de_dfce20f405f2e3a9
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-lsa.resources_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_de-de_e045ef991f1ee851
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-m..ditevtlog.resources_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_de-de_b3a3bf3ae25ff7f7
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-security-schannel_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_none_24a53c4ecca473b0
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-lsa_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_none_a8d97c02d42cd525
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-msauditevtlog_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_none_c9d16b8eefcf11ab
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-lsa_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.18496_none_a7fd5d33bb4c7ff1
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-credssp-adm_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.22712_none_db731962d2da7628
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: tree root as a root relative path: \Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-credssp-adm_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.18496_none_da96fa93b9fa20f4
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    DC: Package_for_KB2973351~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.1: unique components: 33 Size: 5.02 MB (5,267,788 bytes)
2014-10-30 15:49:35, Info                  CBS    Total size of superseded packages: 6.21 MB (6,521,823 bytes)
2014-10-30 15:50:58, Info                  CBS    Microsoft-Windows-IE-Troubleshooters-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.7601.17514 superseded - uninstalled
2014-10-30 15:50:58, Info                  CBS    Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Optional-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~8.0.7601.17514 superseded - uninstalled
2014-10-30 15:50:58, Info                  CBS    Package_for_KB2973351~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.1 superseded - uninstalled
2014-10-30 15:51:01, Info                  CBS    DC: Scavenging files using CBS API...

 

May be, it could depend on HomePremium? As I see you installed Professional.

 

I installed HP x86 with another UpdatePack and KB2973351 has been uninstalled, then I integrated without this KB and WU did NOT ask for.

After this I installed using the UL 23-10-2014 (with KB2973351) and It has been uninstalled too.

 

With x64, Professional and HomePremium, KB2973351 as NOT been declared as superseded.

 

I'll try tonight another integration with KB2973351 on x64 and report, what happens.

 

Regards, Thiersee

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Yes, I'm used to test only Professional edition since it's the best compromise between all W7 versions (HP lacks of XP Mode, Ultimate/Enterprise asks for 34 language pack updates in optional updates, Homebasic and Starter are too basic, they don't offer Aero effect), and it's now the only version available when you buy a new computer.

If some KBs are unneeded depending of the used version of W7, it will be too much complicated to maintain the ULs !!! So, I'll just maintain them for Professional edition.

People who use an other edition will just have to perform a deep clean after their installation to remove unneeded updates.

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Merci pour l'info concernant IE

sinon j'utilise la derniere version de WinToolkit (1.5.2.16)

je vais donc ressayer

et oui pour les modules de langue je ne les installes pas

 

merci

a++

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Yes, I'm used to test only Professional edition since it's the best compromise between all W7 versions (HP lacks of XP Mode, Ultimate/Enterprise asks for 34 language pack updates in optional updates, Homebasic and Starter are too basic, they don't offer Aero effect), and it's now the only version available when you buy a new computer.

If some KBs are unneeded depending of the used version of W7, it will be too much complicated to maintain the ULs !!! So, I'll just maintain them for Professional edition.

People who use an other edition will just have to perform a deep clean after their installation to remove unneeded updates.

I'm back with my test results:

 

it dipends from the version!

 

1) HomePremium, x86 & x64: KB2973351 has been uninstalled

2) Professional, x86 & x64: has NOT been uninstalled

 

Of course every installation with a fresh ISO and the same INI for WTK.

 

So, I mean too it would to much work to maintain the ULs separately for every version.

 

Have a good night.

 

Thiersee

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@Thiersee,

I will update the first post to advise users that a deep clean could be usefull if their W7 edition is not a Professional or Ultimate one, just hope that this KB will be replaced in all editions at the next patch tuesday !

@Alpha_95,

Méfie-toi quand même des traductions gogole, des fois on a de drôles de surprises ! Mais au moins ça fait rire !!!

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@Thiersee,

I will update the first post to advise users that a deep clean could be usefull if their W7 edition is not a Professional or Ultimate one, just hope that this KB will be replaced in all editions at the next patch tuesday !

......

OK, thanks!

 

KB2973351 is for PCs, where KB2919355 has been installed: may be, depending on other installed KBs, it is not necessary for HomePremium anymore.....

 

BTW, regarding Google Translate (Hi Alpha_95 ;)):

I don't speek French, but if I let it translate your posts I see almost always that it can't be right!

 

Thiersee

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