Hello Thiersee, OK, as far as i understand it, this is a sort of half way solution for me - i am looking for a programm which fetches the updates actually installed in my system and create for example a .ulz list for download. But anyway a starting point. i have a english version. internet explorer doesn't matter for me - i only use it for updates. - would like to avoid specific updates [windows defender for example] a shame that this .ulz format is binary - do you know if the updates are directly downloaded from microsoft? regards Gerd