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    RAMDrive Users [Brainstorm]

    in Win Toolkit

    Posted

    Is there really any speed increase while using a ram drive compared to a SSD and HDD

     

    No personal attack, but why are people asking this question ?

     

    A average HDD read/writes about 100 MB/s.

    A good SSD read/writes about 500 MB/s.

     

    ...and no one asks, if a SSD is faster than a HDD, but...

     

    A average DDR3 (1600MHz) with 9-9-9-27 timings read/writes about 15000 MB/s

     

    So why are there so many users asking, if a RAMDRIVE is faster than a SSD, or if it can make any sense using it ? :g:

    RAMDrive Users [Brainstorm]

    in Win Toolkit

    Posted

    I am of the mind of "why re-invent the wheel?"  While "doing it" yourself could give speed benefits, I think it would take away from the work on your program done so far.  But hey, you *are* the developer.

    Normally I would commit your statement, but "this" wheel has a lot of rough edges and when it is possible to make the wheel round again, this would be more than nice !

    RAMDrive Users [Brainstorm]

    in Win Toolkit

    Posted

    I'm sorry Lego, but the speed with /ScratchDir ( v1.4.1.9 ) is a little bit slower than before.

     

    I tested this way:

     

    Ramdrive and SSD and WinToolkit 1.4.1.9
     

    Win Toolkit Options – Main (my changes)
     

    Error Logging OFF
    Mount Logging OFF
    Registry Logging OFF

     
    Win Toolkit Options – Misc (my changes)

     
    Win Toolkit Temp Folder  (RAM  1GB   T:\Temp)
    Win Toolkit Mount Folder (RAM 20GB   M:\Mount)
    ‘Update Catalog‘ Download Folder (RAM   M:\Updates\McRip Windows 7 x64)
     

    Using Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 (X17-59885.iso unpacked on SSD   C:\w7iso)

    Downloading McRip Windows 7 x64 Updates (2013/01), 384 *.msu files

    Using Win Toolkit v1.4.1.9 and All-In-One Integrator
     

    Result: 46m31s

     

    Refering to my last tests, the result is 1 minute slower than with v1.4.1.8

     

     

    There are two processes ( dism.exe and dismhost.exe ) which permanently writes to "C:\Windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log" and "C:\$LogFile (NTFS-Volumeprotokoll)".

    Maybe there will by a very little speedup, when these processes will write to ramdrive ?

     

    But the main difference between using a ramdrive last summer and today with WinToolkit is the speed of update integration.

    The speed now is about 9s-10s per update integration.

    Last summer ( sorry, but I can't refer to the exact toolkit version ), it was about only 2s per update.

    So it was possible to integrate all updates plus programs and drivers in about 14 minutes.

    Update Catalog

    in Win Toolkit

    Posted · Edited by caphp

    Hi Falo,

     

    a far as I understood the update mechanism, every month there are a couple of new updates, and there are updates, which are newer versions of existing updates.

    These (old) existing versions will be moved to the "Old" folder and the new version is copied to your McRip folder.

    Cause the updates in the "Old" folder are really old, they might can be deleted, but I haven't done it so far.

    I can test it this evening...

     

    Sorry, but I'm not sure about your point 2. Maybe I can test this in the next days...

    but maybe your problem is solved, when you download IE9 directly in swedish ?

    speed up w7toolkit on high spec systems

    in Win Toolkit

    Posted

    Maybe I have to explain, what Wintoolkit meens to me...

    It's not so important for me, to generate a w7 image, install it and use it for a couple of years.

    If this is my intention, I will maybe download the tool every 2 or 3 years, use it ... and he ( me ) will never be seen in the next years.

     

    I love to work with the tool and I love the several ways of modifikation it overs me.

    It's my hobby to test nearly every version, build new install.wim's and test the installation under a VM.

    So to me, the possible speedup with a ramdrive is a very important thing, because it offers me many new testings and much much fun !

     

    By the way ... BIG THX Lego for your work !!!

    speed up w7toolkit on high spec systems

    in Win Toolkit

    Posted

    @Stimpy & Kelsenellenelvian

     

    I think you're right. I havn't think about, that there are new dism files and several new toolkit versions.

     

    @Kelsenellenelvian

    OK, speed is not the most important thing, but when I have no problems in a specific toolkit version and all works fine, which method should I choose to go there ... the one with 45 minutes waiting, or the one with 15 minutes ? :)

    speed up w7toolkit on high spec systems

    in Win Toolkit

    Posted · Edited by caphp

    By the way… here are my last two configurations, if someone likes testing too…

     

    1.) no ramdrive, only using ssd

     

    Win Toolkit Options – Main (my changes)

     

    Error Logging OFF

    Mount Logging OFF

    Registry Logging OFF

     

    Win Toolkit Options – Misc (my changes)

     

    Win Toolkit Temp Folder (SSD   C:\Windows\TEMP\WinToolkit)

    Win Toolkit Mount Folder (SSD   C:\Mount)

    ‘Update Catalog‘ Download Folder (SSD   C:\WinToolkit141-8\Updates\McRip Windows 7 x64)

     

    Using Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 (X17-59885.iso unpacked on SSD   C:\w7iso_unpacked)

    Downloading McRip Windows 7 x64 Updates (2013/01), 384 *.msu files

    Using Win Toolkit v1.4.1.8 and All-In-One Integrator

     

    Noticeable: most of the reading processes are… (rarely writing processes, so I don’t make a note)

    C:\Mount\Windows\System32\config\SOFTWARE (more than 10 processes reading, each of them with 1-40 MB/s)

    C:\Mount\Windows\System32\config\COMPONENTS (more than 10 processes reading, each of them 1-40 MB/s)

     

    Result: 51m31s

     

     

     

    2.) ramdrive and ssd

     

    Win Toolkit Options – Main (my changes)

     

    Error Logging OFF

    Mount Logging OFF

    Registry Logging OFF

     

    Win Toolkit Options – Misc (my changes)

     

    Win Toolkit Temp Folder (RAM 1GB   T:\Temp)

    Win Toolkit Mount Folder (RAM 20,5GB   M:\Mount)

    ‘Update Catalog‘ Download Folder (SSD   C:\WinToolkit141-8\Updates\McRip Windows 7 x64)

     

    Using Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 (X17-59885.iso unpacked in RAM   M:\w7iso_unpacked)

    Downloading McRip Windows 7 x64 Updates (2013/01), 384 *.msu files

    Using Win Toolkit v1.4.1.8 and All-In-One Integrator

     

    Noticeable: most of the writing processes are… (rarely reading processes, so I don’t make a note)

    dism.exe (more than 10 processes of them, each with 5-40 KB/s, writes to SSD   C:\Windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log  and  SSD  C:\$Logfile NTFS-VolumeProtokoll)

    dismhost.exe (more than 10 processes of them, each with 5-40 KB/s, writes to SSD   C:\Windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log  and  SSD  C:\$Logfile NTFS-VolumeProtokoll)

     

    Result: 45m30s

     

     

     

    So I’m more than 30 minutes away from my old former result :/

    speed up w7toolkit on high spec systems

    in Win Toolkit

    Posted

    @Stimpy

     

    I'm using a Intel i7 @ 4 GHz, 24GB and a small Crucial M4 with 128GB.

    When addin 384 Updates from McRip in w7x64sp1 iso with AIO method (WinToolkit 1.4.1.8), it lasts 46m15s.

     

    Nearly half a year ago (older WinToolkit Version), I added over 400 Updates, nearly 15 Programms and a couple of drivers, and I used a ramdrive and it takes only 14 minutes !

     

    But...

    I can not remember my configurations :-(

    I don't know, what exacly I had done to reach this result :-(

    Since then I try to config the ramdrive in several ways ( 18GB for mounting, 2GB for temp, 1GB for updates / 17GB for mounting, 3GB for temp, 1GB for updates / and so on ), but I never reached my first result when buying the 24GB and using a ramdrive :-(

     

    That really makes me angry and sad.

     

    So...

    I know that a ramdrive can speedup the WinToolkit several times.

     

    When I will manage the correct configuration again, I will post a [HowTo] thread in combination with a free ramdisk tool.

    [Solved] Strange things in AIO "Updates + Languages" section

    in Win Toolkit

    Posted · Edited by caphp

    Hi,

    I was just trying to add the new Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer: July 10, 2012 ( IE9-Windows6.1-KB2719177-x64.cab ), but the update is not shown in the list.

    Then I try again by pointing the "+" icon, but the update will not apear in the list.

    After that, I removed another update "IE9-Windows6.1-LanguagePack-x64-deu.cab" and added it again with the "+" icon.

    The update is shown on the buttom of the list.

    I marked the update and choose "Move To Top", but it did not move to top, it moved to the middle of the updates ( I think, it was the position 250 ). So I must mark it again, must choose "Move To Top" again and then the update is on top.

    Can someone confirm the behavior with IE9-Windows6.1-KB2719177-x64.cab and the "Move To Top" button ?

    THX

    P.S.: v1.4.0.32

    [Solved] Temp Folder Changes won't stay

    in Win Toolkit

    Posted · Edited by caphp

    Tested the issue in v1.4.0.18.

    I set the tmp and mount folder to M:, which is a ramdisk.

    sW7TTemp=M:\W7T

    sMountTemp=M:\Mount

    W7t uses both, but there is still a "c:\W7T\Mount\" created, but as far as I can see, it is not used.

    EDIT:

    I noticed the following while using the all-in-one tool. W7T still uses

    C:\Users\<USERNAME>\AppData\Local\Temp

    permanantly for writing datafiles. I think for extracting update files, but to my mind, W7T has to use the Temp folder, or am I wrong ?

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