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Is there really any speed increase while using a ram drive compared to a SSD and HDD
No personal attack, but why are people asking this question ?
A average HDD read/writes about 100 MB/s.
A good SSD read/writes about 500 MB/s.
...and no one asks, if a SSD is faster than a HDD, but...
A average DDR3 (1600MHz) with 9-9-9-27 timings read/writes about 15000 MB/s
So why are there so many users asking, if a RAMDRIVE is faster than a SSD, or if it can make any sense using it ? :g:
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I am of the mind of "why re-invent the wheel?" While "doing it" yourself could give speed benefits, I think it would take away from the work on your program done so far. But hey, you *are* the developer.
Normally I would commit your statement, but "this" wheel has a lot of rough edges and when it is possible to make the wheel round again, this would be more than nice !
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I'm sorry Lego, but the speed with /ScratchDir ( v1.4.1.9 ) is a little bit slower than before.
I tested this way:
Ramdrive and SSD and WinToolkit 1.4.1.9
Win Toolkit Options – Main (my changes)
Error Logging OFF
Mount Logging OFF
Registry Logging OFF
Win Toolkit Options – Misc (my changes)
Win Toolkit Temp Folder (RAM 1GB T:\Temp)
Win Toolkit Mount Folder (RAM 20GB M:\Mount)
‘Update Catalog‘ Download Folder (RAM M:\Updates\McRip Windows 7 x64)
Using Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 (X17-59885.iso unpacked on SSD C:\w7iso)
Downloading McRip Windows 7 x64 Updates (2013/01), 384 *.msu files
Using Win Toolkit v1.4.1.9 and All-In-One Integrator
Result: 46m31s
Refering to my last tests, the result is 1 minute slower than with v1.4.1.8
There are two processes ( dism.exe and dismhost.exe ) which permanently writes to "C:\Windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log" and "C:\$LogFile (NTFS-Volumeprotokoll)".
Maybe there will by a very little speedup, when these processes will write to ramdrive ?
But the main difference between using a ramdrive last summer and today with WinToolkit is the speed of update integration.
The speed now is about 9s-10s per update integration.
Last summer ( sorry, but I can't refer to the exact toolkit version ), it was about only 2s per update.
So it was possible to integrate all updates plus programs and drivers in about 14 minutes.
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Thiersee is right. The IE9 exe can be directly integrated in the update section. You dont need the msu file
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Hi Falo,
a far as I understood the update mechanism, every month there are a couple of new updates, and there are updates, which are newer versions of existing updates.
These (old) existing versions will be moved to the "Old" folder and the new version is copied to your McRip folder.
Cause the updates in the "Old" folder are really old, they might can be deleted, but I haven't done it so far.
I can test it this evening...
Sorry, but I'm not sure about your point 2. Maybe I can test this in the next days...
but maybe your problem is solved, when you download IE9 directly in swedish ?
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Maybe I have to explain, what Wintoolkit meens to me...
It's not so important for me, to generate a w7 image, install it and use it for a couple of years.
If this is my intention, I will maybe download the tool every 2 or 3 years, use it ... and he ( me ) will never be seen in the next years.
I love to work with the tool and I love the several ways of modifikation it overs me.
It's my hobby to test nearly every version, build new install.wim's and test the installation under a VM.
So to me, the possible speedup with a ramdrive is a very important thing, because it offers me many new testings and much much fun !
By the way ... BIG THX Lego for your work !!!
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@Stimpy & Kelsenellenelvian
I think you're right. I havn't think about, that there are new dism files and several new toolkit versions.
@Kelsenellenelvian
OK, speed is not the most important thing, but when I have no problems in a specific toolkit version and all works fine, which method should I choose to go there ... the one with 45 minutes waiting, or the one with 15 minutes ?
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By the way… here are my last two configurations, if someone likes testing too…
1.) no ramdrive, only using ssd
Win Toolkit Options – Main (my changes)
Error Logging OFF
Mount Logging OFF
Registry Logging OFF
Win Toolkit Options – Misc (my changes)
Win Toolkit Temp Folder (SSD C:\Windows\TEMP\WinToolkit)
Win Toolkit Mount Folder (SSD C:\Mount)
‘Update Catalog‘ Download Folder (SSD C:\WinToolkit141-8\Updates\McRip Windows 7 x64)
Using Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 (X17-59885.iso unpacked on SSD C:\w7iso_unpacked)
Downloading McRip Windows 7 x64 Updates (2013/01), 384 *.msu files
Using Win Toolkit v1.4.1.8 and All-In-One Integrator
Noticeable: most of the reading processes are… (rarely writing processes, so I don’t make a note)
C:\Mount\Windows\System32\config\SOFTWARE (more than 10 processes reading, each of them with 1-40 MB/s)
C:\Mount\Windows\System32\config\COMPONENTS (more than 10 processes reading, each of them 1-40 MB/s)
Result: 51m31s
2.) ramdrive and ssd
Win Toolkit Options – Main (my changes)
Error Logging OFF
Mount Logging OFF
Registry Logging OFF
Win Toolkit Options – Misc (my changes)
Win Toolkit Temp Folder (RAM 1GB T:\Temp)
Win Toolkit Mount Folder (RAM 20,5GB M:\Mount)
‘Update Catalog‘ Download Folder (SSD C:\WinToolkit141-8\Updates\McRip Windows 7 x64)
Using Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 (X17-59885.iso unpacked in RAM M:\w7iso_unpacked)
Downloading McRip Windows 7 x64 Updates (2013/01), 384 *.msu files
Using Win Toolkit v1.4.1.8 and All-In-One Integrator
Noticeable: most of the writing processes are… (rarely reading processes, so I don’t make a note)
dism.exe (more than 10 processes of them, each with 5-40 KB/s, writes to SSD C:\Windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log and SSD C:\$Logfile NTFS-VolumeProtokoll)
dismhost.exe (more than 10 processes of them, each with 5-40 KB/s, writes to SSD C:\Windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log and SSD C:\$Logfile NTFS-VolumeProtokoll)
Result: 45m30s
So I’m more than 30 minutes away from my old former result :/
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@Stimpy
I'm using a Intel i7 @ 4 GHz, 24GB and a small Crucial M4 with 128GB.
When addin 384 Updates from McRip in w7x64sp1 iso with AIO method (WinToolkit 1.4.1.8), it lasts 46m15s.
Nearly half a year ago (older WinToolkit Version), I added over 400 Updates, nearly 15 Programms and a couple of drivers, and I used a ramdrive and it takes only 14 minutes !
But...
I can not remember my configurations :-(
I don't know, what exacly I had done to reach this result :-(
Since then I try to config the ramdrive in several ways ( 18GB for mounting, 2GB for temp, 1GB for updates / 17GB for mounting, 3GB for temp, 1GB for updates / and so on ), but I never reached my first result when buying the 24GB and using a ramdrive :-(
That really makes me angry and sad.
So...
I know that a ramdrive can speedup the WinToolkit several times.
When I will manage the correct configuration again, I will post a [HowTo] thread in combination with a free ramdisk tool.
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After so many weeks of endless waiting ... I have too ask ... when will Win Toolkit v1.5 be released ?
It would give me great pleasure to start testing again with the new version !
Thanks for you good work so far Legolash2o.
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Ah ok,
maybe Legolash2o can take a look at it over again.
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Hi Thiersee,
try v35. Works fine for me so far.
cu
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@Legolash2o
I can confirm, that the problem is solved in v35.
Thank you very much !
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Thanks for checking, but it wont work for me in v33.
I checked v26 and it works fine (!), but I can not add it in V33.
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Checked 1.4.0.33
The problem with IE9-Windows6.1-KB2719177-x64.cab still exists.
The "Move To Top" problem is solved.
@Lego
Please take a look at the cumulative security update. Its really important. THX
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Hi,
I was just trying to add the new Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer: July 10, 2012 ( IE9-Windows6.1-KB2719177-x64.cab ), but the update is not shown in the list.
Then I try again by pointing the "+" icon, but the update will not apear in the list.
After that, I removed another update "IE9-Windows6.1-LanguagePack-x64-deu.cab" and added it again with the "+" icon.
The update is shown on the buttom of the list.
I marked the update and choose "Move To Top", but it did not move to top, it moved to the middle of the updates ( I think, it was the position 250 ). So I must mark it again, must choose "Move To Top" again and then the update is on top.
Can someone confirm the behavior with IE9-Windows6.1-KB2719177-x64.cab and the "Move To Top" button ?
THX
P.S.: v1.4.0.32
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I downloaded all the "Security Release ISO Images" directly from Microsoft and all my .net updates are part of these iso files, but I can not find them in here http://hotfix2.cesidian.info/x64/
?!?
These files are marked red:
KB2446709
KB2478661
KB2518867
KB2539634
KB2572076
KB2656355
KB2633879
KB2656372
KB2604114
KB2656410
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Sorry to report that we have no luck with v20... pretty much nothing installed
I can confirm this in v20.
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Tested the issue in v1.4.0.18.
I set the tmp and mount folder to M:, which is a ramdisk.
sW7TTemp=M:\W7T
sMountTemp=M:\Mount
W7t uses both, but there is still a "c:\W7T\Mount\" created, but as far as I can see, it is not used.
EDIT:
I noticed the following while using the all-in-one tool. W7T still uses
C:\Users\<USERNAME>\AppData\Local\Temp
permanantly for writing datafiles. I think for extracting update files, but to my mind, W7T has to use the Temp folder, or am I wrong ?
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Is it possible, that you "Settings.txt" file (within the Toolki directory) is write-protected ?
Any chance of an update for windows 8.1 soon?
in Win Toolkit
Posted
I don't think so :sad01_anim: