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  1. I understand. I'm just happy using the procedure I made (I made a doc to refer to) that the IE11 failing to install issue has been resolved. The only kb's in my silent at this point are 2685811 and 2685813. It was just curious to me why 2685813 INSTALLS but 2685811 does NOT. I ASSume they are very similar, but understand your explanation. No big thing, just trying to get this to be PERFECT. right now I'm a very happy camper. Once again all your efforts (and thiersee's) MUCH APPRECIATED! regards...
  2. my sept results wu reports 1st check: kb4041083 kb2685811 (its #1 in my silent list) mrt defender 2nd check: no updates... deep clean>>>>kb2534111 regards....
  3. Gentlemen sorry for the confusion. The reason this came about was purely by accident. Thiersee as you know from our pm's and I have written numerous times just about every month when making my iso I was having IE11 FAIL to integrate. I would then have to do the integration over, numerous times. After 3 or 4 attempts it would work and I didn't know why. After awhile the eyes and mind get blurry. This month I did the method stated above and MOST IMPORTANTLY IE11 integrated with no problems. I realized if I deleted the 4 known issues from my silent list, then included them, IE11 WORKS!. Again I was using a preset with the 4 known issues being carried over in the silent every month. If left there then IE11 FAILS. At that point I was VERY HAPPY. But curiosity got the best of me so I posed the question to the forum where there is much experience and knowledge using WTK and the UL's. When I made the change described in detail above I noticed the 4 unknown issues getting integrated and just posed the question as to why since they are not in the updates and silents. It seemed to me to be duplicating the 4 issues by then including them in the silent list. I see them getting integrated so why extend and installation by including them in the silent list. hey I'm thrilled that IE11 doesn't fail on me anymore by doing it the way described. A 45 minute procedure was taking me 4 hrs and lots of frustration every month. I will try the procedure that thiersee recommends just to see what happens, but at this point my philosophy is>> if it ain't broke don't fix it. My final VM install with the iso I make seems perfect. I truly APPRECIATE the TIME and EFFORT by both you chaps. Any other information on your testing truly appreciated. (you might want to replicate what I initially was doing with the 4 known issues being carried over (preset) in the silents to see if IE11 fails and if so, WHY?) My goal was to learn more (which I did) and hopefully help others or find out if there is a bug, which I think there is because of the IE11 failure. knowledge is power, correct? regards...
  4. Rhahgleuhargh I use the English ver of win 7, sp1, and the home premium edition. Might as well use that exact iso to hopefully, see what I mean. I really doubt that tweaks, files drivers etc will have an affect. Please use the CONVENIENCE method. Download the English UL's (ie11) into WTK. Load IE11, then the remaining 40 or so updates. When the screen comes up with the 4 unknown issues, please check all 4 so they go to your silent list. Then go to your silent list and delete them. I then move 2685811, 2685813 to the silent list from the update list. then start your integration. Please keep an eye on the updates getting integrated. after the last update, (the monthly rollup) pay particular attention to the area where WTK is letting you know which update is being integrated. When I use these steps WTK will say after the monthly rollup integration: integrating known issues and those 4 issues that you originally had in the silent and are no longer there get integrated. Hopefully same happens to you. If so then make your iso and test on vm. I always check INSIDE the WORKING folder that you extracted the iso to, for the folder that has the silent files in them and make sure the list in there is correct. sometimes 2533552 slips in somehow. regards...
  5. rhahgleuhargh I am NOT as versed as you and thiersee with using WTK and making the iso as you well know. All I can say when doing the English version (as thiersee points out) that after the new monthly rollup gets integrated in my system WTK then DOES integrate 2533552, 2603229, 3046269 and 3177467, even though they are not in the 43 or so updates getting installed. WTK shows this at the bottom of the screen where the integration messages pop up 1 after another. Since I saw WTK integrating them I figured why have them in the silents list, where I have removed them. Naturally it will save time when doing a new installation. It might be the exact steps I take using WTK and making a new iso??? As I said I use my prior months preset minus the new updates. Then when adding all the new updates from the NEW ul, a screen comes up with those 4 known kb issues. I check them all so that WTK put them in the silents. I do that so they do NOT get included with all the updates. I then go to silents and remove them. Maybe doing it that way somehow "tricks" WTK into integrating them somehow even though nowhere to be found? What I am saying is that they are not needed in the silent list doing it this way. However they are still needed. How that differs than just including them in the entire update list (by not checking them) I don't understand, but I was told from way back to have them in the silent list. Now that I have probably confused you, (sorry), please respond. regards...
  6. Just did another test and confirmed that 2533552, 2603229, 3046269 and 3177467 not needed in silent list. My only kb's in silent list are 2685811 and 2685813. after installing this iso into VM WU only asks for MRT and defender. I installed those updates and did manual check again and NO important updates. only 2 optional, 4032113 and 3102429. deep clean uninstalls 2534111. regards...
  7. thiersee thx for the reply. I do follow exactly what you have shown. in options I DO have the box checked to move unknown issues to silents. 2533552 is 1 of the 4 on that mask list. after I move 2533552 to silents I then REMOVE it as per the tutorial (my choice). you see, using the preset was giving me that problem with IE11 failing. I was just leaving those 5 kb's in the silent list month after month and when the mask came up I did not check the kbs to be moved (because they were in silents already. Didn't make sense.) Doing it that way IE11 fails (at least for me, possibly a bug??) So I changed my method. I still use the prior months preset but now my first step is to go into silents and remove the 5 kb's. Then I load all the new ul's updates and when I get the mask for the 4 unknown issues. I check them all to go into silents list. I then go to silents, remove 2533552, go back to updates, rt click on 2685811, 13 and move them to silents. I then position the 5 kb's in silents at the top before ccleaner, mbam, nfw etc. This method works flawlessly with IE11 getting properly integrated. lastly, again, if those 4 kb's get integrated after the monthly rollup, why do we need them in the silent section? I will test now removing them from silents. regards....
  8. I have another question, everyone. I have finally solved my problem with IE11 bombing on me and have been watching the integration of my updates very closely. After IE11 gets integrated then the proper monthly rollup (for august kb4034664) gets integrated. The bottom of the WTK screen lets us know what's happening with these integrations. Immediately following the monthly rollup WTK says "now integrating 4 unknown issues". It then integrates 2533552, 2603229, 3046269 and 3177467. My question is this. I do not have 2533552 anywhere in my installation and 2603229, 3046269, 3177467 are in my silent list. why is 2533552 getting integrated and why are the 3 other updates needed in the silent list? regards...
  9. EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've found it, or at least it worked by making this one change: As I said I would take last month's preset except for the new updates, then just add ie11 and the new updates into the new integration. The change I made was to remove just the kb's from the silents first, then add the new updates. WTK as you know will flag 4 updates with unknown issues (I think that's what it says). I check them all and they go into silents. I then remove kb2533552 and move kb2685811,13 to the silents and that was the "bug" so to speak. When it failed I remember while watching IE11 getting integrated, I would see it integrating the cab then hyphenation, then spelling then I think kb 3177467. This time no kb came along for the ride. Hopefully it puts this issue which was "bugging" me, lol, to rest . regards...
  10. ok total frustration has set in. I know that some of us do not use IE11 (english) in our iso's but I am at the point where I think there is a bug in the program, unless someone can pinpoint where (IF) I am going wrong. Its all pretty straight forward. here is what I do. I get brand new win 7_hp_64 sp1 iso DL from heidoc. use wtk to extract it into new folder on desktop. copy autounattend.xml file into that new folder. start wtk and use last month's preset but leave UPDATES unchecked. (At this point the new UL's have been DL into a separate directory on partition D). I then add updates (IE11 first) then all the updates numbered 1 to 5. (using convenience method). I then remove 2533552, 2685811,13, and 3004375. my prereq's are 2574819, 2670838 and 3020369 in that order. in my silents kb are 2603229, 3046269, 3177467, 2685811, 2685813 plus mbam, ccleaner, adobe FP, reader, nfw 4.7 and (last) telemetry. then I start, name it and everything gets a green check until IE11 (black X). maybe I am missing some prereq's for IE11? seems like easy peasy. hate to bother you guys but I just cannot see anything different than others who make the iso regards...
  11. thiersee no not possible. when the new month's ul's are posted I delete the prior months msu's from the folder then DL all new msu's, including the English ie11.exe file into that folder. I have a very fast isp so it only takes 5 minutes or less. regards...
  12. As usual my wtk session fails on IE11. I cannot understand why this happens. All prereq's and all updates get installed (convenience) method but ie11 fails and then naturally the new rollup also. I am not using 2533552 and 2685811, 13 are in silent. I also remove 3004375 (it was mentioned if one installs home premium_64). I always check delete old installers (sfx section). I am using fresh win 7 iso in new folder and wtk 15410. are there any kb's that are supposed to be eliminated this month or any other ideas. regards...
  13. Does kb4032782 pertain to CONVENIENCE UL64 updates? I do not see it. Was also wondering why KB2533552 is still included in ul64 convenience updates? I don't integrate it anymore and iso works perfectly! Thanks for taking the time to DL these updates every month. Much appreciated.
  14. rhahgleuhargh question. On my main win 7 home system yesterday when the updates came from M$ in addition to kb4025341 I received kb2952664. they both got successfully installed. I then did a deep clean and 2952664 was uninstalled (superseded). while this was going on I was making the july iso and I included 2952664 (a #2 position). WTK failed on IE11 (but I get that now and then, still don't know why). I removed 2952664 and everything went 100%. Just curious why my system called for 2952664. its win 7_64 home premium. regards...
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