So, if I read it correctly, the Solor updates aren't the critical updates, just the "other" types of update? I just assumed that the Solor updates *were* the critical ones, so I downloaded the SP1 iso via WinKit, integrated the Solor updates and found I had 68 or something updates to still install... I really should read through these forums more What resources do people here use to download a complete hotfix pack of all the critical updates? I might be simplifying things far too much, but all I want to do is download the iso, integrate a whole bunch of patches and when I check Windows Update it will say "No updates"! If such a complete pack is indeed out there could Winkit link to it, just as it does the Solor ones? Graybags