RicaNeaga Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Things are getting almost official, and the rumours are intensifying. Read more here - Microsoft has no plans for a second Windows 7 Service Pack.Sources close to Microsoft's sustained engineering team, which builds and releases service packs, have told The Register there are no plans for a second Windows 7 SP – breaking precedent on the normal cycle of updating Windows.Instead, Microsoft will keep updating Windows 7 using patches released each month until support for Windows 7 comes to an end. That date is currently slated for 24 months after the most current SP – that’s SP1, which was released in February 2011Service packs are a pain for Microsoft, because they divert engineers’ time and budget from building new versions of Windows. In this case, the anticipation for Windows 7’s SP2 comes around the same time as the launch of Windows 8, out later this week. Also, by ending SPs, Microsoft could be pushing customers towards the completely new Windows 8.It's a pity / shamefully Microsoft has this strategy. However upgrade prices are the lowest in Microsoft history - see here - 40$ for upgrading from XP, Vista and 7, and also 15$ for PCs bought with 7 after june 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolash2o Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Shame, but I could always just make my own service pack..... kirk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirk Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 They are trying to ram Windows 8 down our throats, I for one won't use it even though they just sent me the invite for 15 dollar upgrade dareckibmw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareckibmw Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Service packs are a pain for Microsoft, because they divert engineers’ time and budget from building new versions of Windows.Greedy bastards! :ranting: :censored: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkee Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Serious question because I'm no expert when it comes to this: how hard it is to collect all post-SP1 updates and cram them into one single .exe? Assuming for each update there has to be a line of code stating what it is and where it should be installed. And since we have well over 400 updates, that does not sound like a small job (however if a team of enthusiasts gets together and each does 50 or so updates, it's probably doable). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolash2o Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Serious question because I'm no expert when it comes to this: how hard it is to collect all post-SP1 updates and cram them into one single .exe? Assuming for each update there has to be a line of code stating what it is and where it should be installed. And since we have well over 400 updates, that does not sound like a small job (however if a team of enthusiasts gets together and each does 50 or so updates, it's probably doable).Quite easily, if you know how The longest part will be creating a nice new GUI.UPDATE: See just done it within 30 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Could this, (turning all selected updates into a Rollup Pack), be a feature that could be added to Win Toolkit? Just wondering.Cheers and Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaltom61 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Could this, (turning all selected updates into a Rollup Pack), be a feature that could be added to Win Toolkit? Just wondering.Cheers and RegardsOne of the best options to add to the toolkit.I think somebody should post this in the requests section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolash2o Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 It probably is possible, don't know how and i won't try anyway as that would be A LOT of work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 LOL Sorry, I thought you said above that you had done it in 30 minutes. I must have misunderstood. Cheers and Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolash2o Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 It took 30 minutes to create that program via visual studio, to code Win Toolkit to automatically create them for you will take ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkee Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) Quite easily, if you know how The longest part will be creating a nice new GUI.UPDATE: See just done it within 30 mins I don't think a lot of people would complain if the whole thing ran through command line As long as it installs with no problem, I don't see why.Get me right, I'm not asking you to actually do the pack, I'm just curious about how-to's. Will Google this subject a bit. By the way, all the files crammed in, do they have to be MSU or can they be CABs (since the later ones take less space)?Just read the Win 7 Updated ISO thread and realized this would not be legal because hotfixes (= code) require copyright permission. Consider my idea void.Edit2 - Wait a minute, don't the servers hosting post-SP1 updates (under Update Catalog) fall into the same "trap"? Do they (ie McRip) have MS' "permission" to "share" these updates? :| Edited October 29, 2012 by monkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) As long as it's downloading the updates from the catalog and not shipping them directly with the tool, it's fine. If you redistribute in any way (other than just a tool to download them for yourself), that's where you go into copyright and redist problems. Edited October 29, 2012 by cluberti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkee Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolash2o Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I not planning on shipping the tool, i was just proving it could be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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