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    In the meantime, you might could use a tool such as this one - WinReducer Wim Converter - to convert the ESD to a WIM that you could then work on with Win Toolkit. Cheers and Regards
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    Introduction

    bphlpt replied to neuron's topic in Introduction

    Welcome to WinCert! Cheers and Regards
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    @abbodi1406, And the reason we can't update the security .cat file to match the modified .mum file is because ... ? If it's a signing issue I might be able to point you to a way you can sign the file to pass all MS security checks for signed files. If it would be better to do as you suggested and replace "the altered mum/manifest files with the original ones after integrating the update", I thought I saw a way to do that over at MSFN, but I could be wrong. Not that i see this as a huge problem to have to install this update after OS install, but it is a minor inconvenience. Cheers and Regards
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    @niTe_RiDeR_Pro, the problem as I see it, is that currently the Win Toolkit section is located in the Windows 7 sub-forum, and this was a Windows 8 question. In my opinion, what should probably happen is the entire Win Toolkit forum should be moved to the WinCert Member Projects sub-forum. It would then be up to Liam whether separate Win7 and Win8 sections are also created. Cheers and Regards
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    To help you a little bit with silent installers, let's get a bit more basic first. When you install an app, any app,the default behavior is usually to do as you implied above - click Install, Next, Next, change any options you want, Next, ..., Finish, and sometimes Restart. All very interactive, with maybe the chance to change options, etc. All well and good, but there are two main problems folks have with that method: [1] Even if you were willing to accept all the default options you still had to do all of that darn clicking which was annoying and took extra time and raised the slight possibility for you to click the wrong thing in your haste, and [2] If you wanted to install applications during an OS install then you had to physically be there to do all that clicking which kind of defeated the whole "unattended" approach that you might want so you could have it all done for you while you were at lunch or something. If you get rid of the need for the clicking, then the installation of the app is considered "unattended", but that doesn't mean it is necessarily silent. You could still have progress screens show which would let you know how things are going with the install and so you could figure out about how much time is left with the app install IF you were familiar with that particular app's install process. Some people like to see that. Depending on the circumstances it gives sort of a sense of comfort that things are progressing normally. If you get rid of the need to do the clicking and you also get rid of any display or interaction with the user whatsoever, then the installation is considered "silent". If an app is silent it is automatically also unattended, but if it is unattended that does not necessarily mean it is silent, understand? For an app to be able to be installed either unattended or silently, it can be given that option by the app creator or by someone else who repacks it. As I said above, the normal way to install an app is to click on "install" or "setup". For an app to be installed either unattended or silently it usually has to be invoked through the command line, not by clicking on something. These days, there are enough folks who want to install apps either unattended or silently, such as in a business situation installing many computers, that many app creators build those options in, but not all do. Some apps do not have those options built in, and for those apps there is no tool, not even Win Toolkit, that can install that app as it is silently. That is one reason why someone else might repack an app. Another reason to repack an app is to slim it down by removing undesired toolbars, or desktop shortcuts, or unneeded runtimes, etc. there are other reasons but that's enough for now. Some apps are relatively easy to repack and others are a real bear to do, if they can be done at all. Anyway, just because an app can be installed unattended or silently does not mean that the commands to do so are exactly the same. Just look at the first post and throughout this thread to see the different syntax and options necessary for the various apps to be installed silently. IF the version of the app that you want to install can be installed silently, and IF the commands, or switches, to do so are known, and IF Lego has that information, and IF he has added it to the current version of Win Toolkit, then and only then will you probably be able to install that version of the app easily and silently using Win Toolkit's Silent Installers tab. If you know the switches then you can manually add them even if Win Toolkit doesn't already know them, but that's one more thing you have to do manually. And if the app does not have the option available then you're out of luck. It will probably be easier and more reliable to install those apps manually after the OS is installed. That's a simplification of the situation, but I hope you now see that just because you want to install an app silently doesn't mean you can necessarily do so using Win Toolkit or any other tool. I'll let others respond to your particular questions. By the way, many folks still like to install apps silently even after the OS is installed just to avoid all of the darn clicking. Cheers and Regards
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    @Forseti, there was no reason for you to have attempted to post that image. That went too far. Remember the forum rules, in this case: @niTe_RiDeR_Pro, you didn't help matters when you egged him on referring to his posts as "nonsense" and saying that he was a "strange person". I have edited your posts to remove those statements. Let us all please remember to treat all members of the board with the same respect that we want them to treat us. So instead of criticizing the way the addon creator chose to make an addon: Cheers and Regards
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    Sorry, I was just pointing out that there were other ways to get a valid Win 7 source, since your warning was that we might not be able to download one anymore from DigitalRiver. Of course I know YOU already knew of the other options and have a valid key. Those comments were meant for the benefit of other forum members who might not know. Your comment about pre-installed systems and the problem with a COA is also valid. Cheers and Regards
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    Same here, Rick. Cheers and Regards
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    MS has taken these down before and restored them after a few days. While I don't doubt that MS would want to force folks to jump through hoops since regular support has ended for Win 7 as yet another boneheaded decision MS has made, the official status is only a guess by heidoc.net: (emphasis mine) I guess we'll have to wait and see if it sticks this time, or if there is a more official announcement. In the meantime, you should probably be sure you have a valid source for future use tucked away for safe keeping, regardless what you need to do to obtain it, just in case. Not that we can officially encourage or support any underhanded, illegal behavior, of course. There are other officially sanctioned ways to obtain a valid source disk, all of which will usually cost the user some amount of money. MS might "send you a replacement disk instead. This will happen at a small processing fee, and also requires you to enter the product key of course." "Windows 7 is available from Amazon in three different editions: Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional and Windows 7 Ultimate", but I don't know in what languages. You can also usually find different versions available on ebay or other such sites. Or if you are desperate, willing and able you "can still buy a new or second hand Windows 7 system, and receive a fresh disk with it. If you have an existing key, you can of course use it with the purchased disk as well, and hence equip two computers with Windows." Expensive I know, but as a last resort... Remember, you always had to have an official product key anyway in order to legally use Windows 7 for longer than the 30 day trial period, which you were able to reset 3 times for a total of 120 days. But none of the above options are as inexpensive, quick and easy as being able to download the source from an official MS site. Let's hope MS comes to their senses and restores this ability for at least as long as Win 7 is in extended support. Cheers and Regards
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    I guess another option would be if a pop up could occur when you press the Create ISO button that would say something like: "The ISO will be Created and the Image will be Rebuilt starting in 3 seconds, or press here to abort..." But others think countdowns are scary, so that might not work either. It doesn't seem too big a request to allow the default behavior to be modified in the settings, or even in an INI file, but I could be wrong. Cheers and Regards
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    I have no idea what that means. I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree. As to comparing one developer to another, they all have different backgrounds, experiences and abilities, they all have to start somewhere, and it takes time and effort for them to develop their craft. If you are not able to politely offer meaningful and constructive criticism, then please just sit back and quietly wait until the installer has evolved to the point at which you are willing to use it. niTe_RiDeR_Pro has made it clear that he currently does not plan to allow his installers to be extracted. If that is a deal-breaker for you then I guess we are at a standoff (aka deadlock): Cheers and Regards
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    @Forseti, The app is made with Inno as both niTe_RiDeR_Pro and Escorpiom have confirmed. Just because you are not able to unpack an installer to satisfy your curiosity as to how it works does not make an app a security risk nor does it make it a "bad installer".. There are many apps, both free, like this one, and commercial whose developers have chosen to prevent the apps from being unpacked, and those developers are within their rights to do so and they do not have to justify their decision. As Escorpiom has also mentioned, we are aware that the IDM installers that niTe_RiDeR_Pro is working on in his free time to provide for all of the members here at WinCert for their convenience have some issues which niTe_RiDeR_Pro is working on to resolve. If you have some specific issues that this installer is causing and you have some suggestions on how to fix those issues, or you have some specific requests on how the app can be improved, then by all means please help by politely posting those here and explain your reasoning for the benefit of all of our readers. If your only reason for posting is that you do not want to install any app that you are not able to unpack, then you have made your point and you do not need to post again. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. Cheers and Regards
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    For a productive Win 8.x, I might suggest checking out some of the posts by NoelC over at MSFN such as this one. He does most, if not all, of his setup manually, but he avoids interacting with "Metro" at all costs and strives to make his Win 8.x system look and act as much like Win 7 as possible. He even wrote an e-book about how to set up such a system yourself that you can find mentioned here. At US $20 it's less than half what NTlite costs so maybe that might appeal to you more. Just a thought. Cheers and Regards
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    The reply wasn't meant to be sarcastic. It appears you are correct that NTlite does seem to be able to remove most of "Metro", at least more than what I thought it did. Not quite all, but effectively it does since there are no more "Metro" apps left to run: Since I choose not to remove any system components, (I just disable what I don't need), and I'm very happy with Win 7 and have chosen not to downgrade to any version of Win 8.x (that was sarcastic ), I'll let someone else that is more familiar with Win Toolkit's component removal capabilities respond to you if they wish to. Cheers and Regards
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    If you are trying to remove ALL of the "Metro" 'crap', then I think you are out of luck. Win Toolkit does not, and has no plans to that I am aware of, remove all of "Metro". I'm also not not aware of any other tool that can remove all of "Metro". "Metro" is too much of an entrenched part of the OS now. Do you know of any such tool capable of that? But just because "Metro" is there doesn't mean you have to use any of it. Cheers and Regards
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    Please edit the previous post instead of making multiple posts in a short time. Especially when the posts are related in their topic and there have not been any intervening posts by anyone else. It'll keep the board looking neater. Cheers and Regards
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    Hmmmmmmm... OK Escorpiom, I guess the ball's in your court if you can, please. Cheers and Regards
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    Sorry. I don't use IE11. I've stuck with IE10 and almost never use it. I couldn't begin to guess when I last used IE at all. Cheers and Regards
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    @niTe_RiDeR_Pro, I know you sincerely believe that your release does not have any reg info in it, but there have now been more than one person that has said that they have found reg info in the build. And I know Escorpiom and I trust him and his app building capabilities. If he says he has found reg info, then... Please double check every thing you can possibly check to confirm whether or not there is reg info in your build, and if there is anything there please remove it. If you have any trouble confirming the existence of the reg info, then maybe if you send Escorpiom a PM, maybe he can help determine where the reg info he found is located. Of course it would be nice if you then share anything you find here in the thread for the benefit of any other potential app builder. Since I assume the same base is used in both your repack and your switchless installer, then your efforts can be applied to both releases. Thanks for your cooperation and all of your building efforts. Cheers and Regards
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    Thank you. Cheers and Regards
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    Then you should probably add that switch, and any others that are not already there, to the list of switches in the first post. Just be absolutely clear you state what the behavior is if you add the switch. It should be understood that the behavior is the opposite if the switch is not included. Thanks for all your hard work with all of your installers and addons. Cheers and Regards
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    Out of curiosity, what is "frightening" about a "restart dialog with count dawn" window? And what would you suggest in its place? Surely you are not suggesting a restart without warning the user? Cheers and Regards
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    Regarding the "mistype", (which you misspelled above, by the way ), of the word 'whilst', it's actually fine. From http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/while_whilst.htm: So since Lego is a Brit, and he is talking about a relatively short period of time, then his use of 'whilst' is perfectly correct, even if an American woulf most likely use 'while'. Cheers and Regards
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    Why would you want a desktop icon? I believe you are most likely in the minority. I think that most folks, including me, want to keep the desktop as clean as possible and absolutely hate apps that insist on putting an icon on the desktop. If you really need one for some reason, it is a trivial matter to add one after the app is installed. But that's just my opinion. Cheers and Regards
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    This is actually quite a good tutorial. To better understand it, you might should read this page - http://www.wincert.net/forum/files/file/5-win-toolkit/ - along with the included links to give you an overall feel for all the various pieces and options available. You could also check this out if you speak Spanish, (though Google translate does a decent job) - http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/9217-proyecto-windows-7-sp1-actualizado/ - and watch this video, also in Spanish - http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/10311-c%C3%B3mo-usar-wintoolkit-recomendaciones/ - then come back here and go through this tutorial again. It will probably make more sense then. It goes step by step and even shows you pictures showing what your file/folder structure should look like, so you should be able to make some experiments on your own and make some decent progress. Then ask specific questions for things you still don't understand. Good luck and welcome to WinCert! Cheers and Regards
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