pennsylvaniaron Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) There is a bug in the August update. Affects Win 7, Win 10 and other OS's. Microsoft working on fixing it... regards... Edited August 18, 2019 by pennsylvaniaron Pink_Freud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, pennsylvaniaron said: There is a bug in the August update. Affects Win 7, Win 10 and other OS's. Microsoft working on fixing it... regards... Do you have some links? I do not have any issues. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Thiersee I read it on my android smart phone yesterday. My Samsung phone has a news feed called briefing. It was in the technology section, but not there today. It mainly affects users whose applications use visual basic. Try and google Microsoft august 2019 visual basic bug... regards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Thiersee said: Do you have some links? I do not have any issues. Regards https://www.ghacks.net/2019/08/17/first-updates-released-that-fix-the-windows-vb-bugs/ I received a BSOD on Win 7 recently (after Aug updates) when running an Office application, haven't had BSOD in several years. Related? I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Pink_Freud said: https://www.ghacks.net/2019/08/17/first-updates-released-that-fix-the-windows-vb-bugs/ I received a BSOD on Win 7 recently (after Aug updates) when running an Office application, haven't had BSOD in several years. Related? I dunno. If it happens again before a fix is released I would uninstall the august updates. Then see what happens... regards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Since Win7 is winding down many of us will be transitioning to win10. I have a question about using WTK with win10. I realize this is not the appropriate blog for win 10 so after any answers plz direct me to the correct blog, if any. I made my first iso yesterday. I used the latest win10 updates downloaded from the msfn website. everything went quite well except ACTIVATION. I am getting the impression the autounattend file does not work with wtk and win 10 because activation fails not matter what I tried. I changed the s/n that the autounattend file suggests for the home edition (TX9XD-98N7V-6WMQ6-BX7FG-H8Q99). I also have it set to skip autoactivation. While that s/n does not work, if I were to uncheck the s/n field (you must have a number in it) then the installation fails along the way. having the autounattend file has its advantages. I only have to answer the KB layout question(s} and I think 1 or 2 others. Is there a way around this without eliminating the file altogether? update: forgot to mention I have been doing this on a VM. It did not work from a brand new install of win 10 on the VM. I then used my win 7 disk, formatted and installed the VM. I then activated win 7. I went into win 7 and did the upgrade that way from within. SAME ISSUE. \ I then went to an entirely different desktop win 7 machine and installed a second HD (making it the boot drive). I used my win 10 iso disk with the autounattend and SAME ISSUE. I am now back on the 1st machine's vm using an iso with NO autounattend file. SAME ISSUE but message now says no product key found. I am using the win 10_64 file downloaded from the heidoc.net site. When I have used that file WITHOUT WTK changes it has always worked. regards... Edited August 27, 2019 by pennsylvaniaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) @pennsylvaniaron, The S/N generic key for 10 Home Edition you used is the good one. For 10 I prefer to use an unattended file generated here, it is more complete than the one provided by WTK, and you won't have to answer to any question. I uselly do my tests with a Pro edition, I add to the "source" folder of the ISO an ei.cfg file that forces system to install the required Edition (in an untouched ISO all Editions are present, ie Home, Pro, S, etc...). In your case, content of ei.cfg should be : Spoiler [EditionID] Home [Channel] Retail [VL] 0 Just open Notepad, copy these lines, and save it as ei.cfg Activation is a quite different thing. Starting from 7 it's possible to obtain a legacy 10 activation for a real machine that is already activated, check here. I don't know if this method works in VMs, I never tested it in VMs because the grace period offered with generic key is enough for testing purpose. The other ways to activate 10 without a serial key are not legal. Edited September 2, 2019 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, rhahgleuhargh said: @pennsylvaniaron, The S/N generic key for 10 Home Edition you used is the good one. For 10 I prefer to use an unattended file generated here, it is more complete than the one provided by WTK, and you won't have to answer to any question. I uselly do my tests with a Pro edition, I add to the "source" folder of the ISO an ei.cfg file that forces system to install the required Edition (in an untouched ISO all Editions are present, ie Home, Pro, S, etc...). In your case, content of ei.cfg should be : Hide contents [EditionID] Home [Channel] Retail [VL] 0 Just open Notepad, copy these lines, and save it as ei.cfg Activation is a quite different thing. Starting from 7 it's possible to obtain a legacy 10 activation for a real machine that is already activated, check here. I don't know if this method works in VMs, I never tested it in VMs because the grace period offered with generic key is enough for testing purpose. The other ways to activate 10 without a serial key are not legal. yes I have used the WAFG file that you link to. For unknown reasons my installation fails using that. I have changed the key in that file to the correct win 10 key (home) and changed my answers from Australia to united states. All other questions were left as defaults. I get the error, "WINDOWS COULD NOT BE INSTALLED ON THIS COMPUTER. TO INSTALL WINDOWS ON THIS COMPUTER RESTART THE INSTALLATION." This occurs during the "getting ready" screen. That error is just another issue at this point. Activation is my main issue. WTK with the autounattend file works perfectly for me except for activation. I get all the updates installed, files I need onto the desktop, win 10 tweaks and I only have to answer the 3 kb layout questions. If it were to activate I am a very happy camper. UPDATE: I just tried using the win 10 home version from heidoc website with no changes on my VM and it also will NOT activate. At this point it's possible the VM is the issue. However from what I read it should not matter if using a vm as long as the vm had an activated win 7 OS on prior. You should be able to upgrade or do a new clean install of win 10. I have an activated win 7 home premium machine in my basement. I'll change the HD and install win 10 home. Theoretically it should activate with a digital license. I cant do it till tonite. will report back then. regards.... regards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) @rhahgleuhargh & @pennsylvaniaron Just as hint, in case you want to work with ADK on the autounattended.xml from Windows Answer File Generator: you will get a syntax error from ADK if you load the autounattended.xml! There is a bug I emailed today to the HomePage, you should a line to the top: Wrong <!--************************************************* Windows 10 Answer File Generator Created using Windows AFG found at: ;http://www.windowsafg.com Installation Notes Location: Notes: Enter your comments here... **************************************************--> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> Right <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <!--************************************************* Windows 10 Answer File Generator Created using Windows AFG found at: ;http://www.windowsafg.com Installation Notes Location: Notes: Enter your comments here... **************************************************--> As I said, on loading the answer-file in ADK! 20 hours ago, pennsylvaniaron said: I have an activated win 7 home premium machine in my basement. I'll change the HD and install win 10 home. Theoretically it should activate with a digital license I'm not sure it will activate, but you can generate a GenuineTicket.xml and activate with it. Instructions (from point 3. to 5.) Spoiler Instructions: Optional: Validate your copy of Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.x Install all necessary drivers e.g. ethernet & wireless card Open your Windows 10 ISO and extract gatherosstate.exe from the sources folder to your desktop Run gatherosstate.exe and wait for the GenuineTicket.xml file to be created Copy the GenuineTicket.xml to a USB thumb drive or something Boot to your Windows 10 USB or DVD and perform a fresh install Disable your internet connection Copy GenuineTicket.xml to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket\ and then reboot Connect online and you should be activated Then detach the Win7 HDD, attach a new HDD or SSD and install Win10 (point 6.). Now follow point 7., 8., 9. W10 is activated. Edited September 3, 2019 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 RESULTS are in! EUREKA! First I would like to thank Liam, Thiersee and RHAHGLEUHARGH for their time and efforts replying and trying to figure this out. I needed to do my method first and see if what I have been reading about Win 10 activation is true. If it didnt work then I was going to try their methods one by one. I had been experimenting with this with Oracle's VM on a hard drive in my main machine with win 10 installed. In this environment win 10 would not activate at ALL! I had tried a clean install with a plain jane win 10 home iso, then a slipstreamed win 10 iso. No good on clean installs. I then installed and activated win 7 on the VM and both those iso's also would NOT activate. That did not make sense at all! I then went to a totally different machine that was activated with win 7. I put in new HD and used the plain jane win 10 iso, did a clean install and activation failed with no product key found. I then hooked up original win 7 hd and cloned it with trueimage and used that HD for the following: I used the plain jane win 10 iso from within win 7 and did an upgrade to win 10. It ACTIVATED with digital license! I then rebooted with the plain jane win 10 disk and deleted all partitions, did a clean install and it once again ACTIVATED!! Lastly I used the slipstreamed win 10 home disk I made with the WTK autounattend file with the s/n TX9XD-98N7V-6WMQ6-BX7FG-H8Q99. I formatted the partitions (don't think the following results would be affected) and I got the activation error I had been getting with the VM that s/n TX9XD-98N7V-6WMQ6-BX7FG-H8Q99 cannot be activated and to contact my organization network operator (or something along those lines). I then went to troubleshoot in that same activation page and it said that a digital license had been found for this computer. It provided a box to click on that said activate windows. I clicked on that and BINGO, win 10 activated with a digital license. This proved to me what I had read for the last few years that once a computer (and most of the existing hardware) is activated with a qualifying product such as win 7 or win 8 then you can legally upgrade to win 10 (of the same persuasion home, pro etc). This goes even if an individual were to use a non approved method of win 7,8 activation such as a loader or MTK. once a computer is activated it should have no issues activating win 10. I don't understand the reason the autounattend file initially gave an error in activation. The autounattend file has autoactivation skipped and the s/n is only used (supposedly) to get win 10 installed. but the M$ servers knew the hardware was activated once before with a digital license. At this point it seems that my slipstreamed disk should work on any qualifying microsoft product. In fact someone just dropped off a formally activated win 7 machine (for repair) that has been upgraded to win 10. I will install a new hd and try the same method(s) on this machine also. will report back... regards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just completed same scenario as above with a clients machine. I cloned their HD with trueimage and used the cloned drive for the experiment. I booted with the slipstreamed disk. This disk which I didnt mention before was made with WTK v.1708 including the autounattend file. I got the updates from the msfn forum. In the setup I deleted all the partitions and created new ones. This machine has a UEFI bios. The install went exactly like before. I was asked 3 questions about KB layout and eventually the desktop appeared with all the files and updates I slipstreamed in. Again activation gave me the same error about that home s/n. I clicked on troubleshoot and it found a digital license. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! regards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 ok going to put this to bed. After successfully activating win 10 from steps above I decided to try again on my VM AGAIN. I wasn't sure if I tried the troubleshooting activation built into win 10 the first time I started this journey. Well it didn't work. For some reason "I" cant activate Win 10 on a VM even after having win 7 installed prior. Its no big deal. The VM will be used for testing tweaks, and new cumulative updates etc. regards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 another issue has arisen while experimenting with the WTK and win10 slipstream. In WTK we all make our own personal tweaks to setup win10 as we like it so we do not have to do those tedious tasks later on (as we do in win 7). here is my issue. I use the autounattend file in conjunction with the tweaks in WTK. I have a username (my last name) in the autounattend file to initially setup win 10 for its first boot. I am using the win10 iso as a universal install disk for "others". I therefore have to add a new account (or user) and in win 10 I ALWAYS setup a new user with a local account as administrator. Once that is done I then can sign out of my last name account and sign into the new local account. Then I can delete my lastname account (and all its files). At this point it is now a 1 user account, setup for the new user. However once I do that then all the tweaks are gone that I setup for my lastname account when I created this "universal" win10 iso. Win10 has the option of just changing the name of the account but if you do that the account name under USERS in file explorer does NOT change. I do not see how I can change that name. If I can change that name then problem solved. If not>>> Is there anyway to PRESERVE the tweaks? As an example I set this pc on the desktop, show all items on taskbar, control panel on desktop to name a few. regards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, pennsylvaniaron said: another issue has arisen while experimenting with the WTK and win10 slipstream. In WTK we all make our own personal tweaks to setup win10 as we like it so we do not have to do those tedious tasks later on (as we do in win 7). here is my issue. I use the autounattend file in conjunction with the tweaks in WTK. I have a username (my last name) in the autounattend file to initially setup win 10 for its first boot. I am using the win10 iso as a universal install disk for "others". I therefore have to add a new account (or user) and in win 10 I ALWAYS setup a new user with a local account as administrator. Once that is done I then can sign out of my last name account and sign into the new local account. Then I can delete my lastname account (and all its files). At this point it is now a 1 user account, setup for the new user. However once I do that then all the tweaks are gone that I setup for my lastname account when I created this "universal" win10 iso. Win10 has the option of just changing the name of the account but if you do that the account name under USERS in file explorer does NOT change. I do not see how I can change that name. If I can change that name then problem solved. If not>>> Is there anyway to PRESERVE the tweaks? As an example I set this pc on the desktop, show all items on taskbar, control panel on desktop to name a few. regards... Once again problem solved by doing a new install on a non VM. Its as easy or maybe even easier than win 7. Simply go to SETTINGS then ACCOUNTS, FAMILY & OTHER USERS. Then to "add someone else to this PC." Win 10 wants a microsoft account but if you answer you dont have the persons sign-in info then you can add a local account. Add the new user and make them an administrator. sign out then back on as the new user. Go back to that settings page and there is a choice to remove the original user. All tweaks and desktop files are not affected. BEAUTIFUL... ps. It activated with digital license. This was a win 7 machine. regards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Hello, Voici le changelog du mois : Security Monthly Quality Rollup : KB4516065 remplace KB4512506 KB4474419 v3 KB4516655 Pas de mise à jour DNF 3.5.1. Un dernier contrôle sur les machines en installation classique et j'envoie les ULs. Edited September 16, 2019 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 9/14/2019 at 9:49 AM, rhahgleuhargh said: .... Voici le changelog du mois : ..... Hi, there is another KB for september, the SSU KB4516655 (i got it requested on all my VMs)! "Paket details" on MCU says it is a replacement for KB4490628, but it is not true, at least for installations with the "Convenience Rollup"-methode. Putting it in WTK instead of KB4490628 (Prerequisites) gives out "Question marks" in front of some KBs, putting it in the "Updates"-section without KB4516655 in the prerequisites gives "Question marks" on other KBs, so i put it under "Updates" with KB4490628 left under "Prerequisites": no issues more! Have a nice week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) Hello Thiersee, Thank you for the info. Strange thing, I just checked my 4 VMs (2 classic and Convenience method for x86 and x64), and in my case this update is still not requested. Here is the result of WU in my x64 machine. No problem, I'll update ULs. Effectively, reading in other forums, KB4490628 is not superseeded. Once KB4516655 manually installed, Deep clean doesn't remove anything. I'm doing a test integrating KB4516655 in prerequisites updates keeping KB4490628. Some people reported problems with september updates. Edited September 15, 2019 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) It doesn't seem to work integrating KB4516655 in prerequisite section. I'll put it in Common Updates section. Edited September 15, 2019 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbodi1406 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 SSUs are permanent updates, Deep clean do not remove them (the 3177467 v1& v2 was exception) KB4490628 is still needed because it's SHA1-signed, and contain the infrastructure to process SHA2-signed updates KB4474419 is also needed to recognize SHA2-only updates KB4516655 is SHA2- only update, it cannot be installed without KB4490628 and KB4474419 Pink_Freud, mooms and rhahgleuhargh 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 Thanks abbodi1406 for these infos ! It works good adding KB4516655 after the 2 others. ULs updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) @rhahgleuhargh KB4524157 released yesterday for Windows 7, replaces KB4516065. KB3150220 superseeded and uninstalled (Deep Cleaning). Tested only W7 Pro x64 on a VM (I switched to Win10 on my PC). Regards Edited October 4, 2019 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Hello Thiersee, Yes I saw it. I'll wait until tuesday to update ULs, there will be more changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooms Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Tiens, moi aussi j'ai enfin fait le saut sur 10, et je ne le regrette pas. J'ai profité de la réinstallation pour passer sur un SSD NVMe, et c'est clairement un cran au-dessus d'un SSD SATA, Firefox et Thunderbird s'ouvrent quasi instantanément, il y a moins d'une demie-seconde de délai entre le clic sur l'icône et le l'apparition effective de la fenêtre. Le système en lui-même me semble plus réactif que Windows 7, mais l'OS n'étant pas le même difficile de dire si c'est le passage à 10, le NVMe, ou tout simplement l'installation fraiche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 4 hours ago, mooms said: Tiens, moi aussi j'ai enfin fait le saut sur 10, et je ne le regrette pas. J'ai profité de la réinstallation pour passer sur un SSD NVMe, et c'est clairement un cran au-dessus d'un SSD SATA, Firefox et Thunderbird s'ouvrent quasi instantanément, il y a moins d'une demie-seconde de délai entre le clic sur l'icône et le l'apparition effective de la fenêtre. Le système en lui-même me semble plus réactif que Windows 7, mais l'OS n'étant pas le même difficile de dire si c'est le passage à 10, le NVMe, ou tout simplement l'installation fraiche. Congrats mooms. I will be selling my current desktop as the holidays approach and will build a new win 10 system. I too will use a motherboard with an m.2 slot and NVMe. Can you tell me the brand and size of NVMe you are using. Is it a Samsung? Regards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, mooms said: Le système en lui-même me semble plus réactif que Windows 7, mais l'OS n'étant pas le même difficile de dire si c'est le passage à 10, le NVMe, ou tout simplement l'installation fraiche. I think is a bounch of all! I switched to Win 10 since a month too, but I'll keep Win 7 until EOL because of remote-maintenance of three PCs in Italy. My board (FM2+) does not support NVMe directly, so I used an extra-PCIe-card and a specialboot-loader (Clover). Edited October 6, 2019 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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