rhahgleuhargh Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) Machines virtuelles débuggées ! Changelog définitif : Security Monthly Quality Rollup : KB4462923 remplace KB4457144, KB3003743 (classic) DNF3.5.1 : KB4457008 remplace KB4457044 RunOnce Updates : KB3177467 V2 Telemetry Updates : KB3150513 à masquer. Je mettrai à jour le fichier .VBS de l'archive du premier post. Edited October 13, 2018 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbodi1406 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) rhahgleuhargh KB3177467 is removed from Download Center, and links no longer works use catalog links instead v1 http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/crup/2016/08/windows6.1-kb3177467-x64_42467e48b4cfeb44112d819f50b0557d4f9bbb2f.msu http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/crup/2016/08/windows6.1-kb3177467-x86_7fa40e58f6a8e56eb78b09502e5c8c6c1acf0158.msu v2 http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/crup/2018/09/windows6.1-kb3177467-v2-x64_b9df2405e7e034e3ffda160fff99a36ab96ba187.msu http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/crup/2018/09/windows6.1-kb3177467-v2-x86_abd69a188878d93212486213990c8caab4d6ae57.msu regarding KB3150513 it's requested because it depend on telemetry components existence, not KB2952664 itself and KB2952664 contents are now included in Monthly Rollup Edited October 12, 2018 by abbodi1406 rhahgleuhargh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 @abbodi1406 Thanks for the info ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, abbodi1406 said: regarding KB3150513 it's requested because it depend on telemetry components existence, not KB2952664 itself Wrong Info from MS, as usual... Quote Prerequisites This update will be offered only if the following prerequisite updates are installed: On Windows 10 Version 1607: the March 14, 2017, cumulative update (KB4013429) On Windows 10 Version 1511: the August 9, 2016, cumulative update (KB3176493 ) On Windows 8.1 and Windows 8: update 2976978 On Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1): update 2952664 On Windows 7 RTM: update 2977759 Or you mean, it happens because the component KB2952664 is now built-in in the monthly rollup and the request comes after the rollup has been installed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 21 hours ago, rhahgleuhargh said: ...... DNF3.5.1 : KB4457008 remplace KB4457044 ..... @rhahgleuhargh It seems not to be. I've just installed W7-Pro x64 Italian without KB4457044: after restart WU asks for KB4457918 with a size of 22.3 MB: this is exact the size of KB4457044! Installed KB4457044 manually and WU does not ask anymore for it. Have a nice WE, Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 @Thiersee Thanks for report, I haven't begin tests yet. WU makes me tired... I'll edit previous post when confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, rhahgleuhargh said: @Thiersee Thanks for report, I haven't begin tests yet. WU makes me tired... I'll edit previous post when confirmed. hey rhahgleuhargh, get some rest, don't rush. But as usual, anxiously awaiting and GREATLY appreciated... regards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 @rhahgleuhargh Same issue for x86 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) @Thiersee Confirmed ! Previous post edited. I just need to recheck for x86 and I'll upload updated ULs. EDIT : Done ! Edited October 13, 2018 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 4 hours ago, rhahgleuhargh said: @Thiersee Confirmed ! Previous post edited. I just need to recheck for x86 and I'll upload updated ULs. EDIT : Done ! Very much appreciated for your time and effort. Just want to confirm if kb3004375 is still NOT needed when making a win 7 home premium _64 (I think its needed for pro).. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) On 10/13/2018 at 4:21 PM, pennsylvaniaron said: Just want to confirm if kb3004375 is still NOT needed when making a win 7 home premium _64 (I think its needed for pro).. regards Yes, it is only for pro ! Edited October 15, 2018 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbodi1406 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 10:54 AM, Thiersee said: Wrong Info from MS, as usual... Or you mean, it happens because the component KB2952664 is now built-in in the monthly rollup and the request comes after the rollup has been installed? It was correct at that time WU check for appraiser telemetry components, not updates number and if present, it offer KB3150513 KB2952664 components are fully included in Monthly Rollup KB3150513 is old and superseded, and Microsoft should expire it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 10:28 AM, rhahgleuhargh said: Yes, it is only for pro ! rhahgleuhargh, thanks for the edit. Before the edit it was unclear. thx for straightening that out. thx also to thiersee (messaging) my win 7_64 HP iso results: WU asks for 4041083, 4049016, 3185319 4099950 (this update was in silent list at top and i watched it get installed on VM so dont know why it was asked for. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, pennsylvaniaron said: 4041083, 4049016, 3185319 4099950 As I already said before: KB3185319 is an old update for IE11, I get it requested ONLY on HPx86 KB4099950, may be you use an older version (before 17.4.2018); re-download it and retry KB4041083 & KB4049016 are older superseded NET-FW (ALL versions) related, they CAN be 4.7.2-related, but they can be 3.5.1-related too; which size have the requests in WU? Edited October 15, 2018 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Thiersee said: As I already said before: KB3185319 is an old update for IE11, I get it requested ONLY on HPx86 KB4099950, may be you use an older version (before 17.4.2018); re-download it and retry KB4041083 & KB4049016 are older superseded NET-FW (ALL versions) related, they CAN be 4.7.2-related, but they can be 3.5.1-related too; which size have the requests in WU? Thiersee my error on 4099950. starting my VM I looked in WU recent update list after I installed the updates and 4099950 was obviously there from the iso integration. So I did the entire install on VM over just now just to confirm and I have 3 updates (also mrt and defender total 5). Using convenience method. 4041083 (18.9mb) 4049016 (18.9mb) 3185319 (52.1mb) Why am I getting this on a _64 install? (I am using NFW 4.72.3190.1.) (kb4099950 in silent as #1.) when loading updates in WTK (3177467 comes up with 2603229 and 3046269.) I do not check them. they go under known issues in WTK. after that they get installed as the last 3 entries in the update list. A subsequent WU check comes up with NO new updates. Deep clean uninstalls 2534111, 2685811, 2685813 regards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, pennsylvaniaron said: .... 4041083 (18.9mb) 4049016 (18.9mb) ..... Hi Ron, check your ULs and your DL-Folder; for both update some components for FW 3.5.1 are missing/not detected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Thiersee said: Hi Ron, check your ULs and your DL-Folder; for both update some components for FW 3.5.1 are missing/not detected 4041083 and 4049016 are not in the UL's, therefore not in my DL folder. Nowhere do I see them. regards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, pennsylvaniaron said: 4041083 and 4049016 are not in the UL's, therefore not in my DL folder. Nowhere do I see them. regards... Of course they are not in the UL! I meant to check if your DL-Folder correspond to the actual ULs ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I just tried making the _64 iso using the CLASSIC method which I have never done. I got the same exact results. same 3 updates. I thought there possibly might be a difference. The only difference I saw was it took WTK approx 30 minutes longer! So why do we have 2 different methods to get same result when 1 method is much quicker? regards.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Hello, Voici le changelog du mois : Security Monthly Quality Rollup : KB4467107 remplace KB4462923, KB2892074 et KB3078601 (classic) DNF3.5.1 : KB4459934 remplace KB4457008 (KB4457044 est toujours nécessaire) Tests en cours terminés. Edited November 14, 2018 by rhahgleuhargh Pink_Freud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 Hello, ULs mises à jour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/13/2018 at 4:47 PM, rhahgleuhargh said: DNF3.5.1 : KB4459934 remplace KB4457008 (KB4457044 est toujours nécessaire) Tests en cours terminés. I haven't tested without KB4457008, but installed new on live system and deepclean states "skipping KB4457008..." Can anyone confirm 4457008 no longer needed? (7 PRO x64, Convenience method) 2018-11-15 14:27:47, Info CBS Skipping: Package_for_KB4457008~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.1 due to applicability 2018-11-15 14:27:47, Info CBS Skipping: Package_for_KB4457044~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0 due to applicability 2018-11-15 14:27:47, Info CBS Skipping: Package_for_KB4459934~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.1 due to applicability 2018-11-15 14:27:58, Info CBS Adding: Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~7601.24263.1.4 2018-11-15 14:28:09, Info CBS Skipping: Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~7601.24289.1.11 due to applicability 2018-11-15 14:28:09, Info CBS DC: Ensuring the online components hive is loaded to perform package analysis... 2018-11-15 14:28:09, Info CBS DC: Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~7601.24263.1.4: unique components: 1065 Size: 281.45 MB (295,123,942 bytes) 2018-11-15 14:28:09, Info CBS Total size of superseded packages: 281.45 MB (295,123,942 bytes) 2018-11-15 14:28:28, Info CBS Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~7601.24263.1.4 superseded - uninstalled 2018-11-15 14:28:59, Info CBS DC: Scavenging files using CBS API... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) @Pink_Freud During my tests in VM I didn't integrate both KB4457008 and KB4457044 with latest KB4459934. Result : a 22 MB cumulative update for DNF is asked by WU, the same as reported by thiersee last month with previous UL. Reinstalling KB4457044 solves the problem. When integrating with KB4457044 : nothing is asked. So you can skip KB4457008. I don't understand why KB4457044 is still needed since files should be replaced by new cumulative update (I get by, there are too much files to compare), but it's not the first time this problem occurs with WU. Maybe abbodi1406 has the answer. Edited November 15, 2018 by rhahgleuhargh Pink_Freud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) Rhahgleuhargh many thanks once again! Was anyone else getting defender kb915597 failing on initial manual WUD? its definition 1.281.19.0.? keeps failing...server issue? error is 8050800c. regards... Edited November 16, 2018 by pennsylvaniaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennsylvaniaron Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 gentlemen, while I do not think this is big issue, its confusing. The november iso disk I created went perfectly. However WUD will not install defender updates. I check my own computer and the latest defender update was successful. I then re-installed the nov. iso on the VM a second time and now the latest defender update 1.281.239.0 will not update. The initial 4 out of 5 updates including MRT were installed with no problems. I can't see how our project here can be doing this, just asking if anyone else has this "bug"? regards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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