ryback Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 http://www.ginjfo.com/actualites/logiciels/windows-10/windows-7-microsoft-redeploie-ses-outils-de-surveillance-et-la-notification-pour-windows-10-20151010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Hello,Voici ce que donne le Patch Tuesday ce jour sur Windows 7 (idem x86 et x64) :Updates : KB3042058, KB3080446 remplace KB3079757 et KB2644515 (x86), KB3088195, KB3093513, KB3097966 remplace KB3083992, KB2999226IE11 Updates : KB3093983 remplace KB3087038W10 Updates : KB2952664 passe en v14, KB3035583 passe en v2, KB3083710 (mise à jour WU client)Additional Updates : KB3080079 (septembre). EDIT : Attention, KB3042058 n'est intégrable qu'en RunOnce, donc à placer dans la section Silent install + SFX de Wintoolkit. En attendant que le programme s'en charge automatiquement, cette mise à jour est renomée zWindows6.1XXX.msu dans les ULs pour que vous puissiez facilement la retrouver.EDIT2 : Il semble que KB3093513 ne soit pas demandée dans toutes les configurations, uniquement si les fonctions Tablet PC sont activées. Mais sur une intégration fraiche elle n'est pas désisntallée par le deep-clean.EDIT3 : KB2644515 est devenue obsolète en x86 (déjà retirée en x64). Edited October 16, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 ......Updates : ...., KB3093513, .........Strange, I updated until now 3 machines and WU requested this update only on 1 machine: my work-pc, x64 prof, didn't request itHP-laptop, x64 prof, requested itVM, x86 HP, didn't requets it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) @Thiersee,It's curious ! Do these machines have the same integration before, or did you add some updates (RDP 8.1, optional updates) ?I'm only able to test x64 on my Virtual machine, I finally decided to keep Windows 10 on my real machine after tests and disabling Cortana and all telemetry reports.I'm testing x64 ISO, if this update is useless it will be removed by deep-clean.About x86 configuration, my other real machine with 7 pro has this KB proposed by WU. Edited October 14, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) ......Updates : ...., KB3093513, .........Strange, I updated until now 3 machines and WU requested this update only on 1 machine: my work-pc, x64 prof, didn't request itHP-laptop, x64 prof, requested itVM, x86 HP, didn't requets it Same here... Home Dell laptop Pro x64 didn't request it, Pro x64 VM did request it, same configuration :confused02: Edited October 14, 2015 by Pink_Freud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 @Pink_Freud and Thiersee,Did you try to install it manually ? If it's really not needed you'll have an error message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Apparemment KB3042058 n'est intégrable avec WinToolkit qu'en RunOnce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 @Pink_Freud and Thiersee,Did you try to install it manually ? If it's really not needed you'll have an error message.Yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well it seems to be more much complicated as expected.... :help: :nuke: :crying_anim02: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Force Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Tested on Turkish x64 Pro; KB3042058 - Not integrated, move to runonceKB3093513 - Integrated, after deepclean not removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 @X-Force,Thanks for reporting.I'll send a message to Legolash2o about KB3042058.I'll put KB3093513 in the ULs since it seems to be needed for 50% of configurations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) @Pink_Freud and Thiersee,Did you try to install it manually ? If it's really not needed you'll have an error message.Yes, same result like Pink_Freud.The update is listed in the same Security Bulletin MS-15-109 together with KB3080446. Strange is, I updated the laptop of my brother in Italy (TeamViewer-session) and this KB has been requested and I got no errors; the laptop is new with W7 Pro x64 English/Italian preinstalled. Edited October 14, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) I've finished tests in x64, UL is OK, with KB3042058 integrated in silent install + SFX. KB3093513 was not deleted with deep-clean. X64 UL uploaded.I continue my round of tests with x86 version. I've uploaded UL but no time to test it until the end of the week.I've updated the W10.vbs script with KB3083710. ULs mises à jour uploadées. Tests OK avec la version x64, je poste la x86 quand même mais je ne pourrai pas la tester avant la fin de la semaine.Script W10.vbs pour masquer les mises à jour de Windows 10 et de télémétrie mis à jour avec KB3083710. Edited October 14, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 .....I continue my round of tests with x86 version........Please, have a look to the updates replaced by KB3088195: it seems that KB2644615 (still present in the UL) has been replaced by KB3088195. Only x86! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Thanks Thiersee,I'll check this ! I'll exclude KB2644615 for my test. Edited October 14, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooms Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 It wasn't requested either on my machine, win 7 pro x64.According to this, the KB seems related to tablet PC and Windows embedded, so maybe if you have disabled some components it will not show up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbodi1406 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 KB3042058 require servicing stack update KB3020369 KB3093513 is for Tablet PC, if the feature is disabled, it might not get offered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) KB3042058 require servicing stack update KB3020369 KB3093513 is for Tablet PC, if the feature is disabled, it might not get offeredThanks abbodi1406!This is the explanation, because it was requested on my brother's laptop: preinstalled from HP, without features disabled.KB3042058: I'll put it after KB3020369. Edited October 14, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Thanks abbodi1406 !Strange, I don't remind if Tablet PC is enabled on my VM and real x86 machine. I'll check. I think I'll let this update in ULs (200 or 201 updates to integrate, it doesn't matter !). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Test OK en x86 sans KB2644615.UL réuploadée sans cette mise à jour.ça commence à faire beaucoup ! 206 et 208 mises à jour en x86 et x64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hi, what shoud this be for??? <!-- <update id="KB" category="1" publishdate="2015-10-13" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3087918"> <title>KB - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>.</description> <filename>Windows6.1-KB-x86.msu</filename> <url></url> </update> --> <!-- Updates Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5.1 -->Present in all actual lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 As you can read this section is desactivated : it's just to facilitate me the task to add future updates : I just have to copy/paste with the number of updates, and add KB name, description, and link. :gleam: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) As you can read this section is desactivated : it's just to facilitate me the task to add future updates : I just have to copy/paste with the number of updates, and add KB name, description, and link. :gleam:OK, thanks. I integrated today 4 time Win 7HP x86 and every time KB2992611 has been uninstalled by DeepCleaning; NOT in x64. Edited October 16, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbodi1406 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 KB2992611 is almost superseded, the only component that is not superseded is CipherSuiteOrder.admx policy definition and Group Poilcy is found only in Professional/Ultimate/Enterprise editions that's why the update is actually superseded completely for lower editions (S/HB/HP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) KB2992611 is almost superseded, the only component that is not superseded is CipherSuiteOrder.admx policy definition and Group Poilcy is found only in Professional/Ultimate/Enterprise editions that's why the update is actually superseded completely for lower editions (S/HB/HP)Thanks abbodi1406!I was just beginning with the integration for HP without this KB to see if it's version-depending, but I read your answer at the right time . @rhahgleuharghI think you can move KB2992611 in the section for "only Professional, Ultimate & Enterprise" Regards, Thiersee Edited October 17, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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