rhahgleuhargh Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Hello,La mise à jour en v7 de KB2952664 a été proposée via WU sur mes 3 machines réelles (7 Intégrale x64, 7 pro x86, et HP x86), et virtuelles (7 pro x86 et x64). Ou alors c'est moi qui vient d'une autre constellation !Il y a toujours un retard de délai entre les mises à jour proposées et leur publication, je n'ai d'ailleurs pas pu avoir d'info sur la plupart des KB du mois hier soir.De toute façon, je n'ai pas encore testé les UL en MV, donc pas de panique.Pour IE 11 je vais voir si en n'intégrant que KB2972667 et KB3008923 il y a un bug, sinon je verrai en rajoutant KB3003057. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha_95 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Personnellement elle n'a pas été proposée pourtant j'avais la version de novembre, heureusement que je suis ton activité car sur le catalogue, elle a bien été mis à jour. Bizarre cependant après noel, un formatage sera effectué donc je partirais de ton UP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 KB2952664-v7 has not been asked by WU on my PCs (real Hardware and VM); installed was version 6. Thiersee P.S.: Google Translate says: "Dans mon PC (matériel réel et VM) ne était pas requise par la version WU 7; a été installé la version 6." Is it OK ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 "Dans mon PC (matériel réel et VM) ne était pas requise par la version WU 7; a été installé la version 6." Is it OK ? :D :crying_anim02: Not really, but it's understandable !!!No matters if this V7 was asked or not. To my opinion, if a new version has been published, UL should integrate the latest one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) "Dans mon PC (matériel réel et VM) ne était pas requise par la version WU 7; a été installé la version 6." Is it OK ? Not really, but it's understandable !!!No matters if this V7 was asked or not. To my opinion, if a new version has been published, UL should integrate the latest one. OK, ok..... :dancing:But now to serious things! I did some test with the updates from patch day (4-5 times integrated and installed) and found out: 1) KB3004394 seems NOT to be integratable!After I integrated it together with all the other updates, all has been installed "correctly", but after a search on WU it was NOT possible to install any other KB, no matter which one!After a new integration without KB3004394 no problems any more!May be, you can put it together with the other "not integratable" 2) Since today WU is asking for KB3006625 (critical, not optional!); there are only two problems with this update: a.) It seems not to be integratable Prerequisites To apply this hotfix, you must be running Windows 7 SP1 or Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976932) b.) It is NOT possible to install it on ALL my PCs (real HW and VM), error is 800706F7; I think because I'm NOT in a domain and the update is for machines in a domain..... Again did Microsoft this month a "beautyful" job.... :ranting: Thiersee Edited December 10, 2014 by Thiersee dareckibmw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareckibmw Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 @ThierseeYou beat me to it! .....something was messing up my new compilation since yesterday.....Im in process to removing KB3004394 and run a test again. Also, I have found more info about this error ~15 min ago http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/354776-windows-diagnostic-tool-error-0x800706f7.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) @Thiersee,I made a test in x86 configuration, (but forgot to integrate KB3004394) : all is OK ; for IE 11 we need KB2976627 and KB3008923, but not KB3003057.I'm actually testing x64 UL.For KB3004394, you can't install any KB after it via WU ?? did you try to install it in RunOnce ?I didn't encounter any bug with KB3006625 during my test on x86 VM and on real machines x64 and x86 (I don't have any domain configuration). EDIT : I stopped my test for x64 config, I'll add KB3004394 with Wintoolkit installer. Edited December 10, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareckibmw Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 @Thiersee,I made a test in x86 configuration, (but forgot to integrate KB3004394) : all is OK ; for IE 11 we need KB2976627 and KB3008923, but not KB3003057.I'm actually testing x64 UL.For KB3004394, you can't install any KB after it via WU ?? did you try to install it in RunOnce ? Im working with x64 only.... I used whole pack from last month and I started installing those 8 manually (in vmware) ....after KB3004394 I couldnt install anything else, so I uninstalled it, rebooted and then rest of them went in smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) 1) KB3004394 seems NOT to be integratable! KB3004394 (x64) integrates with no problem for me (tested in VM) 2) Since today WU is asking for KB3006625 (critical, not optional!); there are only two problems with this update: KB3006625 is one of 27 updates I have hidden, along with MSE, Silverlight & Bing crap Save as (your_filename_here).vbs ' Maxpsoft May 30, 2013, 9:34:15 PM' 06/18/2013 Add extra for Bing Desktop v1.3' 06/28/2013 Updated to continue searching as long as it is finding something otherwise Quit'' Original Mike.Moore Dec 17, 2012 on answers.microsoft but when ran it Hide everything so no good.' Link to script: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/163162-hide-bing-desktop-and-other-windows-updates/' You may freely use this script as long as you copy it complete and it remains the same except for adjusting hideupdates.' If I need to change something then let me know so all may benefit.Dim WSHShell, StartTime, ElapsedTime, strUpdateName, strAllHiddenDim Checkagain 'Find more keep going otherwise QuitDim hideupdates(28) 'TO ADD 1 EDIT THE (#) AND ADD another hideupdates(#)hideupdates(0) = "Silverlight"hideupdates(1) = "KB2506928"hideupdates(2) = "KB2545698"hideupdates(3) = "KB2660075"hideupdates(4) = "KB2709630"hideupdates(5) = "KB2719857"hideupdates(6) = "KB2732059"hideupdates(7) = "KB2761217"hideupdates(8) = "KB2773072"hideupdates(9) = "KB2799926"hideupdates(10) = "KB2800095"hideupdates(11) = "KB2843630"hideupdates(12) = "KB2846960"hideupdates(13) = "KB2853952"hideupdates(14) = "KB2891804"hideupdates(15) = "KB2893519"hideupdates(16) = "KB2913152"hideupdates(17) = "KB2918077"hideupdates(18) = "KB2919469"hideupdates(19) = "Microsoft Security Essentials"hideupdates(20) = "KB2928562"hideupdates(21) = "KB2970228"hideupdates(22) = "KB2977728"hideupdates(23) = "KB2980245"hideupdates(24) = "KB2985461"hideupdates(25) = "KB2998527"hideupdates(26) = "KB3006121"hideupdates(27) = "KB3006625"hideupdates(28) = "KB3009736"Set WSHShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")StartTime = Timer 'Start the TimerSet updateSession = CreateObject("Microsoft.Update.Session")updateSession.ClientApplicationID = "MSDN Sample Script"Set updateSearcher = updateSession.CreateUpdateSearcher()Set searchResult = updateSearcher.Search("IsInstalled=0 and Type='Software' and IsHidden=0")Checkagain = "True"For K = 0 To 10 'Bing Desktop has 4, Silverlight has 5If Checkagain = "True" ThenCheckagain = "False"CheckUpdatesParseUpdatesEnd ifNextElapsedTime = Timer - StartTimestrTitle = "Bing Desktop and Windows Updates Hidden."strText = strAllHiddenstrText = strText & vbCrLf & ""strText = strText & vbCrLf & "Total Time " & ElapsedTimeintType = vbOkOnly'Silent just comment these 2 lines with a ' and it will run and quitSet objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")intResult = objWshShell.Popup(strText, ,strTitle, intType)'Open Windows Update after remove the comment ''WshShell.Run "%windir%\system32\control.exe /name Microsoft.WindowsUpdate"Set objWshShell = nothingSet WSHShell = NothingWScript.QuitFunction ParseUpdates 'cycle through updatesFor I = 0 To searchResult.Updates.Count-1Set update = searchResult.Updates.Item(I)strUpdateName = update.Title'WScript.Echo I + 1 & "> " & update.TitleFor j = 0 To UBound(hideupdates)if instr(1, strUpdateName, hideupdates(j), vbTextCompare) = 0 thenElsestrAllHidden = strAllHidden _& vbcrlf & update.Titleupdate.IsHidden = True'Checkagain = "True"end ifNextNextEnd FunctionFunction CheckUpdates 'check for new updates cause Bing Desktop has 3Set updateSession = CreateObject("Microsoft.Update.Session")updateSession.ClientApplicationID = "MSDN Sample Script"Set updateSearcher = updateSession.CreateUpdateSearcher()Set searchResult = _updateSearcher.Search("IsInstalled=0 and Type='Software' and IsHidden=0")End Function Edited December 10, 2014 by Pink_Freud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 @ThierseeYou beat me to it! .....something was messing up my new compilation since yesterday.....Im in process to removing KB3004394 and run a test again. Also, I have found more info about this error ~15 min ago http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/354776-windows-diagnostic-tool-error-0x800706f7.htmlI've found the thread too, thanks! @rhahgleuhargh For KB3004394, you can't install any KB after it via WU ?? did you try to install it in RunOnce ?Exactly!No, I didn't try it. I didn't encounter any bug with KB3006625 during my test on x86 VM and on real machines x64 and x86 (I don't have any domain configuration)I'll continue trying it. Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think the most intelligent thing to do is to wait some days before publishing ULs : if there is such a bug with KB3004394, MS will probably remove it. I've placed it in my "quarantine" section of ULs.Except this KB, x86 UL is validated.Integration of x64 KBs is very long, I'll have the results of my test tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Another thread @SevenForums reporting sfc /scannow bug with KB3004394 seemingly the culprit:http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/354850-sfc-found-corrupt-files-after-windows-update-never-had-any-before-2.html#post2956299 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 It's official: M$ Updates Screwed the Pooch...again:https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_update/windows-update-kb3004394-issues/ace25277-7f65-4486-bc44-c1b106907a18http://www.allwebsolutions.net/science-technology/operating-systems/botched-kb-3004394-triggers-error-messages-but-no-response-from-microsoft/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Just double checked my VM all updates integrated w DISM, 2 "non-integratable" updates (KB2533552 & KB971033) failed to install by setupcomplete.cmd so it appears KB3004394 prevented their installation. Edited December 10, 2014 by Pink_Freud dareckibmw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think the most intelligent thing to do is to wait some days before publishing ULs : if there is such a bug with KB3004394, MS will probably remove it. I've placed it in my "quarantine" section of ULs........This is the best idea! Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareckibmw Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Just double checked my VM all updates integrated w DISM, 2 "non-integratable" updates (KB2533552 & KB971033) failed to install by setupcomplete.cmd so it appears KB3004394 prevented their installation. This is exactly what happened to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 To my post #305: 2) Since today WU is asking for KB3006625 (critical, not optional!); there are only two problems with this update: Forget this point, please! On my 2 working PCs this request does not appear, probably due to other Updates/programs installed.If I make a fresh installation with only the updates from the UL (Windows, IE11, RDP) and make then an update-search, KB3006625 appears as "important",in the same way like SP1 (a small part) if KB2533552 has not been installed. With a complete installation with all the non integratable updates, driver, programs and so on KB3006625 is NOT requested by WU. The issue with KB3004394 remains. Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 M$ has pulled KB3004394 (for Windows 7) from it's servers. Apparently the update for win 7 x64 did not install a catalog file (kinda important detail, no?) User "bird" reported this finding VBox Ticket #13677 https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13677 From what I can tell, the KB3004394 update does not install a catalog file on 64-bit windows 7. It does on Windows 8.1 (C:\Windows\system32\CatRoot\{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}\Package_1_for_KB3004394~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.1.0.cat), so VBox works fine there. The result of the missing .cat file is that VBox (nor SysInternal's SigCheck.exe for that matter) is not able to verify the authenticity of c:\windows\system32\crypt32.dll and wintrust.dll. If we cannot find any valid signature for the files, we have to assume that they have been tampered with and are forced to abort application loading. These two dlls are important for validating other components, so there is absolutely no way we can ignore this. Until Microsoft fixes the KB3004394 update on Windows 7, the only solution is to revert/uninstall it. dareckibmw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooms Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I have uninstalled KB3004394 to be on the safe side but I didn't encountered any issues mentioned (I still use an old version of VirtualBox though) with the update installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) @tous,MS vient de retirer KB3004394 des serveurs.Upload des ULs du mois sans cette mise à jour. Tests OK en MV x86 et x64.Le changelog est affiché sur mon post précédent.Changements supplémentaires : correction de la traduction des catégories, nettoyage de la liste. Edited December 11, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Hi rhahgleuhargh, First point: I have a very strange issue with WUD and the ULs 30-11-2014 and 09-12-2014 for both architecture: I can NOT load the four lists at the same time, the one overwrites the other!I explain exactly (I hope): I load for example both list for the 30-11-2014 and they appear in WUD;after that I load both lists for the 09-12-2014 and they appear in WUD, but the the others from 30-11-2014 DISAPPEAR! If I load "crosswise", i.e. x64 from 30-11-2014 and x86 from 09-12-2014 no problem; with older list (11-11-2014 and 18-11-2014) no isssues!I unpacked all four lists and opened with Notepad++ to compare the contents I read at min 10 times the lists, but I did not find any error. 2nd point (not an error!) KB3006625: have you read my post #317?I've just finished an installation (real HW, x64) with all my not integratable KBs and again WU did NOT ask for this update! If I install with only the update from the UL, WU asks for it. Thiersee Edit: first point: MY FAULT ! Thiersee Edited December 11, 2014 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) @Thiersee,Since the name of the ULs is the same (except for the date), it seems to be normal that the new one erases the older one. If you want to keep the old list, you have to rename it (ex. TEST-.ul), and place it in the WUD directory (extract .ulz file, don't double-clic on it). Have a look on my screen capture below.For this month I only added the new urls and deleted the 2 supesesed KBs (IE 11 and Update section, have a look on my previous post for changelog). For KB3006625 :I always compare for my tests the results of KBs asked by WU in my real machines (7 ultimate x64 installed in march 2013 starting from mooms update pack, 7 x86 pro installed in march 2014 with my UL, and 7 x86 HP installed in may 2014 using UL) and in my VM created (7 pro x86 and x64) with the UL from the previous month. This KB was asked by WU in all machines. But it's normal because all my work is based on moom's one for a minimalist update list !What are your "not integrable KBs" ? maybe the answer is here... if some additional KBs are installed KB3006625 could be useless. But if these additional KBs are not in the list, it's because they weren't asked by WU after a fresh installation. Edited December 11, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 .....Since the name of the ULs is the same........Exactly this caused my mistake ... For KB3006625 :......What are your "not integrable KBs" ? maybe the answer is here... if some additional KBs are installed KB3006625 could be useless. But if these additional KBs are not in the list, it's because they weren't asked by WU after a fresh installation. for x64: KB2533552KB2603229KB2685811KB2685813KB2506143KB2809215KB2809900KB2823180 for x86: KB2533552KB2685811KB2685813KB2506143KB2809900KB2823180 After installing this updates WU does not ask for KB3006625. Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 OK,It's not due to KB2533552, KB2603229, KB2685811, and KB2685813, because they are in the ULs (2 firsts are RunOnce updates, the others are updates for Kernel Mode driver, they are often present in deepclean logs but in fact are not deleted).KB2506143 is Windows Management Framework 3.0KB2809215 is a bugfix when Windows Management Framework is uninstalledKB2809900 is a fix for help of Powershell 3.0KB2823180 is an update for Windows Management Framework 3.0.So, the same thematic ! Do you need them for your work ? What's the purpose of this feature ? These updates aren't asked by WU after a fresh installation, even in optional updates (as it's the case for most RDP 8.1 updates).To my opinion, the features installed by these updates don't need to be fixed by KB3006625 (a domain controller freezes when an event subscriptionmanager list is long), that's why it's not asked when you previously installed the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig60 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Nouvelle mise à jour ici KB3024777 (Windows 7 x64) sortie ce soir. Aucune information spécifique disponible...(Désolé ! La page que vous recherchez a peut-être changé d'emplacement ou n'est plus disponible..) Mise à jour pour Windows 7 pour ordinateurs à processeur x64 (KB3024777)Pour continuer à utiliser Windows Update, vous devez installer cette mise à jour. Après cette installation, vous devrez éventuellement installer d’autres mises à jour importantes pour l’ordinateur.Taille du téléchargement : 29 KoVous devrez éventuellement redémarrer l’ordinateur pour que cette mise à jour soit appliquée.Type de mise à jour : ImportantInstallez cette mise à jour pour résoudre des problèmes dans Windows. Pour consulter la liste complète des problèmes résolus par cette mise à jour, reportez-vous à l'article correspondant de la Base de connaissances Microsoft. Une fois cette installation terminée, vous serez peut-être amené à redémarrer l'ordinateur.Plus d'informations :http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3024777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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