Thiersee Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 @Thiersee,Just ran a deep-clean on my real x86 machine before I left : KB3004375 is not deleted (was installed last month), just IE 11 update. WU history doesn't show anything except the 2 reinstallations of IE 11 parts, due to the fact that I ran 2 deep-cleans this WE.This Windows 7pro x86 was installed 2 months ago, and I just removed manually KB2536276 and installed KB3000483 this WE.Good luck for your research, I'll read the forum friday !Exactly that will I try: if the same happens with an updated old installation too!Have a nice week! Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Self delete bad info. Edited March 20, 2015 by Pink_Freud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) I believe I've solved the Kb-3023607-3021952-3032359 clusterf**k and you're not gonna believe the solution (at least in my case) is as simple as 3 little letters.... U A C Confirmed in VMWare (twice) and "Live" shstem (once). When KB's 3021952, 3032359, 3023607 & their "child" components are installed with UAC disabled, cleamgr.exe (DeepClean) will remove KB3023607:2015-03-16 10:49:08, Info CBS Adding: Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.02015-03-16 10:49:13, Info CBS DC: Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0: unique components: 58 Size: 20.54 MB (21,538,670 bytes)2015-03-16 10:49:13, Info CBS Total size of superseded packages: 20.54 MB (21,538,670 bytes)When KB's 3021952, 3032359, 3023607 & their "child" components are installed with UAC enabled, DeepClean does not remove KB3023607 Can anyone else confirm/refute/test etc this scenario? Be back this afternoon (it's 11:30 AM here now) Me so happy!I can't confirm it sorry :sad01_anim: ! UAC is enabled in my VirtualBox (Standard, cursor on the 2nd step from the top); I installed Win7 HomePremium x86 (updates + RDP ONLY, no other stuff!).I used the february-UL from rhahgleuharg, then: 1) I searched for update by WU2) I installed by hand single updates beginning with KB3000483 (not asked by WU) then the updates from the WU-list; I didn't install KB3033929 immediately at the 2nd place.3) After every update (restart only if necessary) I did a deep cleaning, a restart and a new search by WU. Everything went good.4) After installing KB3046049, deep cleaning, restart and search by WU I saw in the DeepClean.log that KB3023607 has been uninstalled together with KB3023562; WU asked for KB3032359/KB3021952 again (each 3MB)!5) I reinstalled KB3032359/KB3021952 and the updates-history told me KB3023607 has been installed.6) After installing KB3033929 (at the end, because there are some problems with this update) and deep-cleaning I got a big bad surprise: KB3023607 has been uninstalled again, but this time together with KB3004375 and KB3031432 (have a look to my previous posts)! I'll try now to reinstall windows again, then some from the WU-list (excluding KB3046049 and KB3033929), then switch UAC-cursor to the top-step (ALL permissions) and install the two updates left.I'll report if it works or not. Regards, Thiersee Edited March 16, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Since this issue has been reported by many people, both here and on other sites, I would assume that this is not anything that anyone is doing wrong, except MS. So I'd suggest only doing a deep clean before adding these troublesome updates, and not afterwards, at least this month. Hopefully, MS will straighten this mess out by next patch Tuesday, if not before. It seems that either the updates, and/or the deep cleaner app, needs an update. Just my opinion. Cheers and Regards dareckibmw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Since this issue has been reported by many people, both here and on other sites, I would assume that this is not anything that anyone is doing wrong, except MS. So I'd suggest only doing a deep clean before adding these troublesome updates, and not afterwards, at least this month. Hopefully, MS will straighten this mess out by next patch Tuesday, if not before. It seems that either the updates, and/or the deep cleaner app, needs an update. Just my opinion. Cheers and RegardsFull ack! Some more tests I made today showed me, that both KB3046049 and KB3033929 are responsible if KB3023607 will be uninstalled by deep clean; added to this, KB3033929 causes deep cleaning uninstalling KB3004375 and KB3031432! Therefore my next try will be to integrate with the last UL from 14-03-2015 excluding KB3046049 and KB3033929, then deep clean and at the end a new search by WU. Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) @Thiersee: Than you for your efforts, I appreciate it but I'm afraid you've lost me with talk of any KB's except 3021952, 3032359 & 3023607 :dizzy: those three are the only ones I had any issue(s) with. FWIW I'm testing x64 only w/ IE11 & prereq's, RDP, WU Client, Net 3.5.1 & updates thru DISM cmd script, March ULZ, & abboddi's Net 4.5 WA, mooms' Flash SFX thru Wintoolkit & setupcomplete for KB's 971033 & 2533552. ETA: I Hide these KB's on first MU checks: Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2506928Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2545698Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2660075Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2719857Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2732059Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2761217Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2773072Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2799926Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2800095Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2843630Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2846960Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2853952Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2891804Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2893519Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2913152Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2918077Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2919469Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2928562Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2970228Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2977728Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2985461Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB3006121Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB3006137Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB3006625Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB3021917Regards,Pink Edited March 17, 2015 by Pink_Freud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 ....but I'm afraid you've lost me with talk of any KB's except 3021952, 3032359 & 3023607 :dizzy: those three are the only ones I had any issue(s) with. FWIW I'm testing x64 only......No, I didn't lost you, sorry.I only said, that those KBs are responsible too, if KB3023607 will be uninstalled, even if UAC is enabled; have a look to points 4), 5) and 6). I did it on x86, because it's faster (smaller) to get more tests in a day .I'll do today a final test on x86, then I 'll begin with x64 (I need both). I say it again:updates asked by WU ONLY with the UL from rhahgleuharg (updates, RDP 8.1, IE11 with updates); NFW 3.5.1 is part of the OS and already in the list I only add the hotifx KB3000056 (Rollup for NFW 3.5.1).Nothing others! Regards, Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) ....Mises à jour retirées par le deep-clean : KB2718704, KB2868626, KB2984976 (RDP 8.1), KB3005607, KB3031432, et KB2852937 en x86 (déjà suprimée auparavant en x64). EDIT 20h30 : changelog définitif !Hi, what for update is KB2852937? Nowhere I found it on the WEB! The only link in Google to this KN-Number is to your post! Regards, Thiersee Edited March 17, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Well this is embarrassing. I really screwed the pooch with my UAC "fix"....(Self delete bad info) @Thiersee: Gotchya, Thanks a million! Edited March 20, 2015 by Pink_Freud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Hi, another issue I have: because of the problems with some update from last patch-day I integrate now using rhahgleuhargh's UL from february 24-02-2015, adding the working updates and KB3000483. Testing with only updates from the list (with RDP 8.1 and IE11), for x86 updates from patch-day march are requested by WU, of course .For x64 WU is asking not only for updates from patch-day march, it request KB2834140 (IE prerequisite, 811KB) too, even if this KB is in the UL and is shown as installed in the list of installed updates and I don't find the reason why!It's not depending from OS-language. Did anyone experience the same issue? TNX, Thiersee Edited March 18, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbodi1406 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Hi, another issue I have: because of the problems with some update from last patch-day I integrate now using rhahgleuhargh's UL from february 24-02-2015, adding the working updates and KB3000483. Testing with only updates from the list (with RDP 8.1 and IE11), for x86 updates from patch-day march are requested by WU, of course .For x64 WU is asking not only for updates from patch-day march, it request KB2834140 (IE prerequisite, 811KB) too, even if this KB is in the UL and is shown as installed in the list of installed updates and I don't find the reason why!It's not depending from OS-language. Did anyone experience the same issue? TNX, ThierseeKB2834140 is a bi-update, it can be installed (offered) with/without platform update KB2670838so if you installed it before KB2670838, you have to install it afterwards too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 .....KB2834140 is a bi-update, it can be installed (offered) with/without platform update KB2670838so if you installed it before KB2670838, you have to install it afterwards too You are the best and my SAR-man (Save And Rescue) ! I made a mistake in the WTK-Integration for x64: I didn't put KB2670838 before KB2834140, but I was not able to see it without your hint; x86 was OK from the beginning.Thanks a lot. Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) Hi,.... what for update is KB2852937? Nowhere I found it on the WEB! The only link in Google to this KN-Number is to your post! Regards, Thiersee Oops it was KB2859537. 'Need to change my glasses...Back from holidays, Whaoo seems to have some things to read here. Edited March 19, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) @Thiersee,I made tests with x86 and x64 configurations, and didn't find the pb you report with KB2670838 and KB2834140 (both in ULs), except of course the 2 IE 11 updates reasked after deep-clean.No more time to test, I'll have hard work next week. So I'll let the ULs as they are until next update patch, just hope MS will correct the bug !@Pink_Freud,UAC is disabled on my real machines, but enabled in VM. IE updates are reasked after deep-clean in both configurations. Edited March 21, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) @Pink_Freud,UAC is disabled on my real machines, but enabled in VM. IE updates are reasked after deep-clean in both configurations. I've edited out my bonehead mistake (UAC causing re-asking problem) here and here Well this is embarrassing. I really screwed the pooch with my UAC "fix"....(Self delete bad info) My apologies to you & the thread participants. :dizzy: Edited March 21, 2015 by Pink_Freud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) @Thiersee,I made tests with x86 and x64 configurations, and didn't find the pb you report with KB2670838 and KB2834140 (both in ULs), except of course the 2 IE 11 updates reasked after deep-clean.No more time to test, I'll have hard work next week. So I'll let the ULs as they are until next update patch, just hope MS will correct the bug !.....Problem is already solved with the hint from abbodi1406, see posts #486 & #487.On x64 was the sequence in WTK not correct, KB2670838 must be installed before KB2834140. Have a nice weekend, before your hard work next week . Thiersee Edited March 21, 2015 by Thiersee dareckibmw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareckibmw Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 @Thiersee You are the biggest stubborn S.O.B I've ever seen! and you remind me of this sign joke Seriously......you're doing great job - we thank you! Pink_Freud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 O/T: Stealing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Sometimes is very useful to be stubborn Thiersee dareckibmw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 @Pink_Freud,No need to apologize in any thing, purpose of this forum is to help people to solve their problems !@Thiersee,OK ! I read the forum with my phone, so I couldn't see correctly the content of all posts ! Normally if you put all KB together with Win toolkit, KB2670838 should be integrated before KB2834140. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareckibmw Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 @Thiersee,OK ! I read the forum with my phone, so I couldn't see correctly the content of all posts ! Normally if you put all KB together with Win toolkit, KB2670838 should be integrated before KB2834140. I checked again and WTk puts them in correct order. Everything integrates fine, installs, ran WU and nothing shows up. Problem starts after deep scan, as we all know though, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Hello,Mini patch tuesday ce jour : KB2952664 a été mise à jour en v9 (lien indisponible pour le moment). EDIT 26-03-2015 : ULs mises à jour uploadées. Edited March 26, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Force Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Microsoft just issued an optional update KB3035583, this update does not replace a previously released update. http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Microsoft just issued an optional update KB3035583, this update does not replace a previously released update. http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583 Update enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1 This update enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications when new updates are available to the user. It applies to a computer that is running Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1). :noexpression: :dizzy: Preparation for Win 10 RTM????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Hello,Yes I saw it but link is not available actually. This update is optional (think I will place it in the list).There is another update KB3049874 for Timezone that superseedes KB3013410. Edited March 28, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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