Thiersee Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Hello,Yes I saw it but link is not available actually. This update is optional (think I will place it in the list)........A user has posted here (My Digital Life Forum, post #9846) the links (be carefully, there is a space before the name!): x86 : download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2015/03/ windows6.1-kb3035583-x86_457fc816e5855c206303bfe9ed14240eb701e5d2.msux64 : download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2015/03/ windows6.1-kb3035583-x64_7fd8b294fc445ef0a2cfd626e46009ece049d693.msu ^ | | Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) thx Thiersee !I'll add this KB to the list because it seems to add some functions like Windows 10 DL (see here). EDIT : Mise à jour des ULs. Changelog identique x86 et x64 dans la section Updates : KB3049874 Timezone remplace KB3013410, ajout de KB3035583 (ajout de fonctionnalités supplémentaires pour les notifications de WU). Attention, le bug des mises à jour d'IE 11 est toujours là, ne faites pas de deep-clean ou sinon vous allez devoir retélécharger les 2 KB nettoyées. A noter aussi que M$ propose maintenant Skype dans les mises à jour optionnelles. Edited March 28, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Yesterday KB2952664-v9 has been requested againby WU; release date on MS-Catalog 07.04.2015. May be it's a corrected (minor) version.... BTW: KB3035583 should go into the optional category: not all people want to be "advised" by MS when W10 is ready!I've hidden this update. Edited April 8, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Hello Thiersee,I've updated the links for KB2952664 yesterday but prefered wait for the next update patch for the upload of ULs. It was not asked by WU in my case, but binaries have been updated.I completely agree with you for KB3035583, now we have enough informations about it, and it has no more place in "updates" category. Optional update category seems to be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hi, have you already read this topic? Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Assuming one has a Windows 7 system that they don't want Microsoft trying to "upgrade" to WIndows 10 via Windows Update, it seems that they don't need to install KB2952664, KB2990214, KB3021917, and KB3035583.Cheers and Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Hello,Thanks for these infos.I'll modify ULs tomorrow after the patch tuesday, and put KBs you mentioned in optional updates (ie KB2952664, KB3021917, and KB3035583) ! Edited April 13, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Hello,I desinstalled these KBs on my VM, but now M$ mark some of them as "important" (KB3035583 and KB3021917, KB2952664 for x86).I'll make a new test with new updates on a new machine, result later ! EDIT : Changelog du mois identique x86/x64 : IE 11 : KB3038314 remplace KB3032359Updates : .net FW 3.5.1 KB3037574KB3042553KB3045685KB3045999 remplace KB3046049 KB2922229 (x64) et KB2872339 (x64)KB3046269KB3046306KB3046482 remplace KB2993958KB2990214 (Windows 10 Preview for those who have installed KB2952664, KB3021917, and KB3035583)Nettoyage Deep-clean : KB2993651 KB3035583 et KB3021917 deviennent prioritaires en x64, KB2952664 également en x86 (à vérifier sur une intégration neuve, j'ai juste désinstallé ces KBs sur mes machines virtuelles avant de relancer un tour sur WU). J'ai bien peur que ces mises à jour aient toujours leur place dans la section Updates (le but de ces ULs est de n'avoir aucune MAJ prioritaire demandée par M$ après installation). Je referai un test dans le courant de la semaine pour vérifier. A moins de pouvoir créer des leurres ?A noter encore un superbe bug lorsqu'on relance WU après le deep-clean : IE 11 KB3021952 (5.2 MB) est redemandé par WU ! Edited April 17, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) ......A noter encore un superbe bug lorsqu'on relance WU après le deep-clean : IE 11 KB3021952 (5.2 MB) est redemandé par WU !I think it is an effect of removing KB3046049! I made a DeepClean on a real Hardware, where KB3046049 was installed: this KB has been uninstalled, but after tha WU asked for KB3021952 (only 5.2 MB).The same sh.t like after last patch-day! Regards, Thiersee Edited April 14, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Freud Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) ......A noter encore un superbe bug lorsqu'on relance WU après le deep-clean : IE 11 KB3021952 (5.2 MB) est redemandé par WU !I think it is an effect of removing KB3046049! I made a DeepClean on a real Hardware, where KB3046049 was installed: this KB has been uninstalled, but after tha WU asked for KB3021952 (only 5.2 MB).The same sh.t like after last patch-day! Regards, Thiersee Can't reproduce above (no KB3021952 in VIrtual Machine). Findings so far: KB3038314 replaces KB3032359 (MS Catalog, KB)KB3045999 replaces KB2872339, KB2922229, KB3046049 (MS Catalog)KB3046482 replaces KB2993958 (MS Catalog, KB)??? replaces KB2993651 (no documentation, WUC reports as superseded) Edited April 14, 2015 by Pink_Freud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Updates :KB2990214 KB2990214This is the Windows 10 Technical Preview itself !!!Re KB3035583, KB3021917 and KB2952664, these still showed up as optional for me, as did KB2990214, and I have chosen to simply hide them. Regardless of how MS classifies them, they are not needed.Cheers and Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 @bphlpt,OOps, missed that KB2990214 was Windows 10 (I haven't hide the other KBs on my real machine). Previous post edited.In my case, some of these KB were asked as important updates, but I uninstalled them just before reboot. I need to try an integration without them.Correction has been done for optional KBs in ULs, I just need to copy the new links and make tests in a brand new VM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha_95 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Salut, je ne vois pas la KB3037581 (Net 4.5, 4.5.1 et 4.5.2) dans ta liste, normal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 KB2990214 (Windows 10 Preview for those who have installed KB2952664, KB3021917, and KB3035583) I was offered KB2990214 as an optional update even though I had not installed KB2952664, KB3021917, and KB3035583. [They were also offered as optional at the same time.] I declined and hid them all. I usually wait until a week or two after "patch Tuesday" to install any updates at all. In the meantime, I read your thread here, and others here at WinCert and at MSFN, to see what you and others have discovered regarding MS's latest antics. Thank you very much for your hard work in investigating the updates and their interactions. By the way, like Alpha_95, I am also offered KB3037581. Also, I have been avoiding updating Skype for Windows desktop 7.0. (An update for it was "optional" up until yesterday) Now, I'm being offered KB2876229 and now they are calling it "important". I'm not sure why it's importance has changed. Since I don't use Skype, I haven't decided whether I will update it or not.Cheers and Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) @Alpha_95,Oui, c'est normal, je ne m'occupe pas des mises à jour pour le .net FW 4.5.x, il faudra attendre la mise à jour de l'installateur de Ricktendo. Seul le .net FW 3.5.1 est fourni avec Windows 7. Mais oui, cette mise à jour m'a été proposée.@bphlpt,You have a great idea to wait one week for installing updates. I should to this for the next time (since last WU bugs I'm waiting a few days to upload updated ULs). Edited April 15, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha_95 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 ah oui c'est vrai, je vais me coucher.... désolé.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Hello,Résultat d'un premier test en x86 avec les ULs mises à jour :Les mises à jour nécessaires à la migration vers Windows 10 sont bien demandées en mises à jour importantes (cf image jointe, j'ai juste oublié d'intégrer KB2922229 qui est encore utile en x86, mais plus en x64). Il y a un souci encore avec les mises à jour d'IE 11 je suis en train de régler ça (nouveau test avec IE 11 KB2976627 nécessaire pour les configurations non anglophones, KB3021952 et KB3038314).Si la majorité d'entre vous ne veut pas de ces mises à jour, y aurait-il moyen de créer un script pour les désactiver, ou alors de créer un leurre comme pour le MRT ? Edited April 16, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hi, I finished today for tests (1x x86, 3x x64) in VM; I did hide the updates for Win10 (but not KB2952664) and I didn't got any request by WU.After a DeepClean, it requested again KB3021952. Before I forget it:I used the UL from 27 march, deleted the superseded and added the new KBs. Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 @Thiersee,Did you hide Win 10 required updates before integration, or did you hide them manually with a right clic in WU window ? If yes, how ?I have the same result for x64 test. IE 11 KB3021952 5.2 MB still asked after installation. But we can remove KB3032359. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Manuall, after integration.I didn't integrate KB3032359 at all. At the moment no test on real HW, my 2nd PC is ready to delivery to my brother in Italy; I've to buy now a new motherbiard... Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 @tous,Upload des ULs mises à jour (changelog plus haut).Mise à jour du premier post.Attention, WU demande 5 mises à jour prioritaires du dossier "Additional Updates" qui correspondent à la migration vers Windows 10 (vous devez les désactiver manuellement), ainsi qu'une partie de la mise à jour d'IE 11 KB3021952 (5 Mo en x64).@non-french users,Updated ULs uploaded. Some updates have been placed in "Additional Updates" folder (5 prerequites for Windows 10 migration), but they are still marked by WU as important : you'll have to hide them manually if you don't want them. A part of IE 11 KB3021952 (5.2 MB in x64 configuration) is asked by WU after first reboot, I have no solution for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 ......@non-french users,Updated ULs uploaded. Some updates have been placed in "Additional Updates" folder (5 prerequites for Windows 10 migration), but they are still marked by WU as important : you'll have to hide them manually if you don't want them. A part of IE 11 KB3021952 (5.2 MB in x64 configuration) is asked by WU after first reboot, I have no solution for this.Do you get KB3021952 request before or after a deep cleaning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Yes, it was asked just after installation on first WU request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Yes, it was asked just after installation on first WU request.OK, I'm now testing.In one or two hours can I tell you my results: I've an idea (suspicion...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbodi1406 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Regarding KB3021952: The 5.2/3.0 MB is KB3023607, it's bundled with both updates same status as last month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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