ryback Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) Je vais le faire lors de la prochaine mise à jour de l'UL. Edited May 24, 2016 by ryback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooms Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 OK, tiens-nous au courant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Force Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 08.06.2016 - KB2952664 updated to v18 ryback 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) Hello, Upload des ULs mises à jour. Changelog : - Modification des catégories pour l'ajout du Convenience Rollup Pack. Il est maintenant possible de choisir l'une ou l'autre méthode d'intégration. - Création d'une nouvelle catégorie pour les mises à jour communes entre le Rollup Pack et l'intégration classique. Pour que l'intégration du Rollup pack fonctionne sous Wintoolkit, il faut que KB3020369 soit placée dans la catégorie "Prérequisites" de Wintoolkit. Du coup, on peut maintenant intégrer KB3042058 (j'ai enlevé le "z"). Cela semble également fonctionner pour une intégration classique, je testerai mardi prochain avec les nouvelles mises à jour. - W10 / Telemetry Updates : KB2952664 passe en v18. - Ajout d'un script adapté au Rollup pour masquer les mises à jour vers 10 et les mises à jour redondantes. Edited June 11, 2016 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winproof Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 hello je croit qu'il doit y avoir un petit bug au niveau des UL, quand je les télécharger avec WUD (dernière version) j'ai un message d'erreur au lancement de WUD (caractères non conformes dans le chemin d’accès), que ce soit avec la liste X64 ou x86. si je fait "continuer", WUD s'ouvre mais la fenêtre de choix des updates est vide. ça ne le fait pas avec une liste "classique". Cdt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 @winproof, essaie de retélécharger les ULs, je viens de tester à l'instant et ça marche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, rhahgleuhargh said: @winproof, essaie de retélécharger les ULs, je viens de tester à l'instant et ça marche. The bug regards the checkbox "Category as subfolder" in the options. Error comes only with the new UL if the box is checked: "Illegal carachter in the path" Thiersee Edited June 11, 2016 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winproof Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 YES! Thanks to you Thiersee, i had started to check my .net install Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 OK, I see now ! I'll remove the " " in the next release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Hi, KB3004375 is in the present ULs twice listed: once under category 2 (Common Updates) and once under category 4 (Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise Editions ONLY). Have a nice sunday, Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) @Thiersee Yes, it's normal. The reason it is listed twice is that when you have a Pro/Ultimate/Enterprise Edition and you want to use the Convenience Rollup integration method, only this update of the 3 of present in this Category is needed, and if you forget to include it, it will be asked. On the other side, it's useless when you don't have a Pro Edition... It's a big dilemna ! Edited June 11, 2016 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 I was only wondering, because I didn't choose the "classic way" and I got an update in the classic section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) Hi rhahgleuhargh, I think KB3138378 & KB3142024 are needed in the "Common category", because they are updates from Mai and have been released after the Convenience Pack (Through April 2016). Edited June 12, 2016 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 @Thiersee, I made a test yesterday with a Rollup integration VM, and curiously, these 2 updates weren't asked by WU. This is the reason why they are not in this category. I'll make a new complete round of test for next Update Patch, maybe it will change some things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Of course, we have to wait for the next patch-day and how MS will deliver the next updates, single patches or again a rollup. My test is more to get the right sequence of install with a minimum of patches to satisfy WU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Theorycally it will be a Rollup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Hi, what does it mean? Google translation does not make sense. Quote <!-- KB2603229 écrasée par le Convenience Rollup Pack --> TNX, Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Hi, It means superseeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hi, tested the way with Convenience Rollup. x86-HP on VM: WU asks for SP1, installed KB2533552 (even if it was under Runonce-SFX), request has gone. After DC: uninstalled KB2534111, KB2857650 (RDP), KB2923545, KB3004375 (HP!), KB3020388, KB3075226, KB3080079, KB3126446. Restart, new search: no new requests. x64-P on VM: Only UL: WU asks for KB2603229 (component, only 36 KB?). After complete install (some extra KBs, like for x86), WU asks for SP1 (KB2533552) and KB971033. After DC: same as for x86 (of course no KB3004375). Now let's wait until tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) @Thiersee Thanks for report. Most of updates cleaned in your test are from RDP 8.1 Category, KB3080079 is an optional update. KB971033 is Windows Activation Technology. Surprisingly, it isn't requested in x86. KB2533552 wasn't requested in my test using setupcomplete.cmd. But according to abbodi1406 it is no more needed as it's the case for KB2603229 (thanks for the info, I only made a x86 test) : we can hide them or integrate them to satisfy WU... In my previous test, all RDP 8.1 requested KBs were only KB2830477 and KB2592687 (Prerequisite KB2854819 is included in Rollup). I'll have to edit the info concerning RDP, or create an new RDP category for Convenience Pack, or more simplier move the non-required RDP updates to the Classic integration Update category. Same thing for Optional Updates : except the 3 concerning IIS, FTP and Telnet for those who want to activate the feature, updates before april shouldn't be integrated when you use Convenience Rollup Pack : KB3102429 and KB3080079 are included in Convenience Rollup. It begins to be very difficult to maintain these ULs without complicating the things ! Edited June 13, 2016 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0nsense Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) 2574819 is in the rollup, but to integrate 2592687 & 2830477, it depends on 2574819. Since the rollup is usually the last update to integrate offline, you'd still need integrate 2574819 to enable RDP 8.1 ... so I would keep 2574819 otherwise you won't be able to integrate RDP 8.1 offline. if that makes sense? Edited June 13, 2016 by n0nsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) @n0nsense Yes, I agree with you. An other solution is to integrate RDP updates after the Rollup, I haven't tested yet. But in this case, I'll need to change their name (leaving RDP-Windows6.1xxx.msu makes them integrated first). I'm thinking about the problem : putting numbers before the name of the updates could be a good compromise : 1- for prerequisites, 2- for updates before Rollup, 3- for the Rollup itself, 4- for the rest. But you'll need to completely reDL the updates. Rollup doesn't need to be integrated at last (updates after april can be integrated after it). Edited June 13, 2016 by rhahgleuhargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) @n0nsense KB2574819 is already present in the UL, even it's superseded by Convenience Rollup! Have a look here, post #10467 (abbodi1406). @rhahgleuhargh I'm testing without the KBs uninstalled by DeepClean and with KB971033 & the old WUC in addition. Regards, Thiersee Edited June 13, 2016 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0nsense Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Thiersee said: KB2574819 is already present in the UL, even it's superseded by Convenience Rollup! Have a look here, post #10467 (abbodi1406). Yes, I agree, I was just trying to suggest to keep the 2574819 as it is, in RDP - I wondered if the discussion/thought was to remove it from the UL. Abbodi states lower down in that post that 2574819 should still be integrated, first, during the RDP integration... This rollup is causing a bit of a headache, generally speaking. I really wish MS would have done a better job of this. Still, I'm thankful at least they provided this rollup. Thanks to you guys for maintaining these ULs. Edited June 13, 2016 by n0nsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 @rhahgleuhargh Made new tests on x86 (HP) & x64 (P) without the by DC uninstalled KBs, added the old WUClient and KB971033 in the "Common category": I confirm the previous tests, no request from WU, only KB2603229 with the size 36Kb. DeepClean uninstalls now only KB2534111. Let's see, what will happen tonight . Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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